Ecoboost direct injection changes?

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Hey y'all, I am a total newbie here , trying to understand what I'm getting into ...
I have been told the earlier 3.5 Ecoboost engines had intake problems because of the direct injection and that newer engines Ford added a secondary injectiom system to fix?
What am I talking about here, is this a real issue, how do you fix this ?
How do you know which engine a SHO has?
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The SHO direct injection continues changed since its inception in 2010. The changes are to the TRUCK based version of the 3.5L engine (F150, Expedition, Navigator, etc), where port injection has been added to keep the back of the intake valves clean.
 

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Hey y'all, I am a total newbie here , trying to understand what I'm getting into ...
I have been told the earlier 3.5 Ecoboost engines had intake problems because of the direct injection and that newer engines Ford added a secondary injectiom system to fix?
What am I talking about here, is this a real issue, how do you fix this ?
How do you know which engine a SHO has?
Thanks!
I just heard about this myself. It seems to be the new ones. I have a.'15 and don't have it. It is just evolution for the motors. Not a big deal. Consider yourself lucky if you are buying new. Not sure at this point when they started this. Ask ford.

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I don't think this applies to the SHO 3.5l, they make multiple 3.5l displacement engines and I know the 2018 5.0l truck has the dual injector set up. I'm sure I had read that they stated another reason for the extra set of port injectors but even if it's an after effect it's a good thing. I had an intake plenum off a 2017 5.3l Tahoe a few days ago for bank 1 injector replacement (different flow rate between banks issue) and with only 33k miles the valves have heavy deposites on them. I think it's just the nature of direct injected engines combined with a lot of blow by gasses (and our turbo's don't help the later). Short of methanol injection to help wash things down, catch cans, quality oil and fuel seem to be the only band aides.

Edit-"Duel Fuel Deliver System combines Port Fuel and Direct Injection fuel in the combustion chamber for improved efficiency, performance and reduced emissions". Nothing about washing down the valves, but if you've seen what I've seen, you know it's a factor. The big question to me is, other than a chunk of that shit breaking off and getting sucked through the engine and turbos, how much of a factor is it? In the past, the issue with coking the valves on port injected engines dealt with fuel saturation on the contaminated back side of the valves, but on D.I. engines the only thing flowing over the valves is air and the offending blow by gasses.
 
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The 5.0 Coyote V8 has both but I am sure the SHO does not - regardless of what year it is.
 

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Imagine the tuning possibilities on the 18 f150 ecoboost with port and direct. bigger tank pump and port injectors, e85? 600whp with just a tune? who knows, endless.
 

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That's a V8 tune isn't it?

Yes.

At the end of the day, there is no replacement for displacement. The 5.0 can make a lot more than that with additional modification. The reason I brought this up is due to it having a subsequent warranty. I will admit, I have not read the fine print.

I do know the 3.5L can be tuned up to 600 H.P. too.
 

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Build the 3.5 like I have and you can get to over 800 w/o a blink.

Toss on some of the latest fueling upgrade offerings, and then one can take advantage of the 1100 peak the (built) engine can offer and woo hoo!

Oh, but wait, then there's the drivetrain.

**frowns**
 

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Build the 3.5 like I have and you can get to over 800 w/o a blink.

Toss on some of the latest fueling upgrade offerings, and then one can take advantage of the 1100 peak the (built) engine can offer and woo hoo!

Oh, but wait, then there's the drivetrain.

**frowns**


What I do not know, is when it comes to pennies and dimes, is which engine can make power more cost effectively.
 

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Build the 3.5 like I have and you can get to over 800 w/o a blink.

Toss on some of the latest fueling upgrade offerings, and then one can take advantage of the 1100 peak the (built) engine can offer and woo hoo!

Oh, but wait, then there's the drivetrain.

**frowns**
How about some details so we can see for ourselves. I would love to know how to get 800 out of this engine. I'm thinking the new 10 speed auto might be able to handle it.

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No 10 speed auto in the sho


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Totally different setup, traverse to longitude setup


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