cooling fan...ccrm.. help

[duckrider]

ok guys and gals.... i know this has been covered before but most of the post that i came up with when i did a search had links posted to answer the questions and for some reason the links will not work for me it just redirects me to the home page for this forum...?

i am trying to chase down an issue with my cooling fan not comming on.... i tryied to get it to come on with the ac/on and no luck, turned the dfrost on and still no fan..... tryied putting power to the fan at the plug and no go, but also their was no power getting to the plug...? i tapped on the ccrm and no luck..does any one have part numbers for the ccrm.... advanced could not find it in their computer...? the ford part number is f3df-12b577-aa.....it has a big pink d on it...

does anyone know were i could find the diagram for this ccrm....?

oh the car is a 95 mtx.... with the singel fan , the plug has 3 pins in it...

any advice...? thanks for any help

 

[Ishodu]

Well if you had put power to the fan and it didn't run theres the problem you need to look at first. Try it again, if no go you prolly need a fan motor.

 

[Redline]

Yea, sounds like your fan motor is dead if you direct wired it and it still didn't work. Also, when mine died it also blew the fuse for the fan motor. You might want to check that as it could explain why there is no power at the plug. IIRC its a 50A in the engine compartment fuse box by the firewall.

 

[SHOZ123]

Here's the diagram....


http://shoforum.com/diagrams/1995/9505.pdf

 

[duckrider]

Yea, sounds like your fan motor is dead if you direct wired it and it still didn't work. Also, when mine died it also blew the fuse for the fan motor. You might want to check that as it could explain why there is no power at the plug. IIRC its a 50A in the engine compartment fuse box by the firewall.

all fuseable links checked out ok..... thanks you for the reply

 

[duckrider]

Here's the diagram....


http://shoforum.com/diagrams/1995/9505.pdf

oh man thank you so much for that link.......

 

[duckrider]

Well if you had put power to the fan and it didn't run theres the problem you need to look at first. Try it again, if no go you prolly need a fan motor.

i think i might have been doing somthing wronk when i tried it direct, will try again today.......... thanks for the reply

 

[duckrider]

yea $45 dollar ccrm from junk yard saves the day........

 

[DVJ38]

I thought it was called the IRCM. What is the CCRM? I recently replaced my fan motor, not that. I think it's the relay harness. I checked all the fuses, they're all fine. Does the relay harness have to be from a 94-95 MTX for my car (See sig)

Thanks for the help...

 

[duckrider]

I thought it was called the IRCM. What is the CCRM? I recently replaced my fan motor, not that. I think it's the relay harness. I checked all the fuses, they're all fine. Does the relay harness have to be from a 94-95 MTX for my car (See sig)

Thanks for the help...

from my understanding the ccrm is sho only and the icrm is what the one is called on the regular taurus.... i am not sure about the whole harness but from my research their are 5 or 6 different ccrms .... their is a large letter on the ccrm that makes it eazy to match up, i looked at 3 differnt shos to find the same one that was on my 95 mtx... hope this helps

 

[SHOZ123]

Integrated Control Relay Module was Ford speak until '93 when SAE standardized things and they called it the Constant Control Relay Module. In '98 the did away with it all together and just put the relays in a serviceable box.

 

[DVJ38]

So I need a CCRM with all the numbers that match up. Cool, thank you very much

 

[mosho93]

Any body have a picture of what were looking for here? I have the same problem with mine, Defrost doesnt turn it on, what wires did you jump it with?

 

[duckrider]

Any body have a picture of what were looking for here? I have the same problem with mine, Defrost doesn't turn it on, what wires did you jump it with?

the ccrm is on the top of the radiator support, under the black plastic cover that has all the stickers on it, lift the plastic cover up a little and you will see the ccrm, on the driver side it will(should) have a little spongy sticker ( kinda like a mouse pad) on top of it, you will have to peal it back to see the numbers, and a large letter

if you look behind your fan, you will see a plug in the harness you can unplug your fan here and run some jumper wires to the fan side of the plug to give your fan some juice and see if it will come on...
if not the ccrm could be bad..... you can also probe the other side of the plug to see if their is power their, i had no power coming to the fan so i just replaced the ccrm and fixed the problem........ hope this helps

 

[SHO green like$]

Same thing happened to my 96 Cavalier today, Fan good, fuse good, relay good. One of the pinouts in the 'socket' the relay plugs into, that isn't suppose to have 12 volts unless the ign. is on.... Actually had 12v even when ign. was off = BAD PCM :cry: But.... I rewired it "Tim Allen Style"