Coilover upper adjustable strut mounts. Which to use?

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adidas_kn

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Okay so i'm finally getting back to working on my 93' over here and I have a worry. What upper strut mounts are you able to use with these Ground Control/Koni coilovers. I want some camber adjustablity and I am worried that the stock(new) upper mounts or the new Ingalls semi adjustable mounts will break under the increased spring load on the center of the mounts.

Anybody got any ideas on what I can use or should I just get the SHO SHOP reinforced front mounts and elongate the mounting holes in the stock camber plates? I know the stock plate can be drilled and moved slightly but I think that will move under the pressure of the coilovers under hard cornering like on track days.
 

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adidas_kn said:
Okay so i'm finally getting back to working on my 93' over here and I have a worry. What upper strut mounts are you able to use with these Ground Control/Koni coilovers. I want some camber adjustablity and I am worried that the stock(new) upper mounts or the new Ingalls semi adjustable mounts will break under the increased spring load on the center of the mounts.

Anybody got any ideas on what I can use or should I just get the SHO SHOP reinforced front mounts and elongate the mounting holes in the stock camber plates? I know the stock plate can be drilled and moved slightly but I think that will move under the pressure of the coilovers under hard cornering like on track days.

I have a set of the SPC 89625 camber mounts (Positive only up to 1.25) more than you would ever need. My car center of wheel to fender is 15" and you can barelly see where they moved the plate. I've seen others post pics with lowering springs and coils cut and they reported a 15 5/8" wheel center to fender.SPC no longer makes front camber mounts. SPC only makes the spot weld tool to change the front camber. If you really don't want to drill yyour spot welds send me a PM. When I took my car to get it aligned the shop drilled mine instead of using the SPC mounts.

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adidas_kn said:
Okay so i'm finally getting back to working on my 93' over here and I have a worry. What upper strut mounts are you able to use with these Ground Control/Koni coilovers. I want some camber adjustablity and I am worried that the stock(new) upper mounts or the new Ingalls semi adjustable mounts will break under the increased spring load on the center of the mounts.

Anybody got any ideas on what I can use or should I just get the SHO SHOP reinforced front mounts and elongate the mounting holes in the stock camber plates? I know the stock plate can be drilled and moved slightly but I think that will move under the pressure of the coilovers under hard cornering like on track days.

The weight of the car is on the front strut towers, so the camber plates don't really need much clamping force to keep them from moving. Consider that Ford just put some smallish nuts on there with a fairly low torque spec and you get the idea that it doesn't take much to keep that from moving. The welds were apparently just to make manufacturing easier. Even the Ford procedures for alignment state to remove the welds (either via drilling or chisel) once the car has left the factory.

I've had coilovers on two different SHOs, both of which do/did some pretty substantial track time on race rubber, and I -never-, ever, had a problem with the stock-style camber plates moving.
 

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Shoaz said:
I've had coilovers on two different SHOs, both of which do/did some pretty substantial track time on race rubber, and I -never-, ever, had a problem with the stock-style camber plates moving.

Mine have never moved either.
 

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Shoaz said:
The weight of the car is on the front strut towers, so the camber plates don't really need much clamping force to keep them from moving. Consider that Ford just put some smallish nuts on there with a fairly low torque spec and you get the idea that it doesn't take much to keep that from moving. The welds were apparently just to make manufacturing easier. Even the Ford procedures for alignment state to remove the welds (either via drilling or chisel) once the car has left the factory.

I've had coilovers on two different SHOs, both of which do/did some pretty substantial track time on race rubber, and I -never-, ever, had a problem with the stock-style camber plates moving.

The welds are there to keep the plate from moving requiring additional alignemts for other work that involves strut/spring removal. Once you bust those welds the plate is free to move each time you remove the strut/spring mount plate nuts. You could retack the plate.
 

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naval-avi8or said:
The welds are there to keep the plate from moving requiring additional alignemts for other work that involves strut/spring removal. Once you bust those welds the plate is free to move each time you remove the strut/spring mount plate nuts. You could retack the plate.

Given the age of these cars I'd be surprised if there are many that have the welds left that haven't had the subframe off at one time or other (or needs it off by now).

Considering suspension and subframe bushing wear, etc., etc., the welds are unlikely to be serving much purpose at this point.
 

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Shoaz said:
Given the age of these cars I'd be surprised if there are many that have the welds left that haven't had the subframe off at one time or other (or needs it off by now).

Considering suspension and subframe bushing wear, etc., etc., the welds are unlikely to be serving much purpose at this point.


Unless you mod the suspension there is never really a reason to break the welds. When those said bushings wear to the point requiring the welds to be broke the bushings would need replaced. There is a tool for subframe alignment. As well during front end alignment, adjustment of the subframe is also used to align the vehical.

My 94 never needed the welds to be removed until last summer and that was only due to a suspension swap to a 97 suspension. Prior to that all I ever replaced was the shock struts with no alingment issues. Not bad for a 12 year old car.
 

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adidas_kn,
I think this would be ideal:
CCP3 fs
This is the universal 3 bolt camber plate from Ground control. As far as I can tell it acts as the strut mount, bearing, and upper spring perch. It also gives you additional travel, preventing bottoming out on lowered cars. It would almost turn the quasi-coilover G-C threaded perch into a full fledged coilover when used as a combo. This is what I would go with if the budget ever allows a full track suspension. Anybody ever use these camber plates on the SHO or otherwise?
 

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