Brake problem - need help!

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TVSHO

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Got in my SHO yesterday to find the brake pedal goes right to the floor. No brake fluid leaks and MC full. At 5mph it take 5 seconds of pedal to the floor to bring the car to a stop. Any ideas??
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Tom
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Sounds like a bad master cylinder. Fluid is leaking by the internal piston seals.

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Sounds like a bad master cylinder... Or some way air is in your brake lines. This could be from a bad caliper seal. You may not see brake fluid right away. You need to take off the wheels and really look at the calipers. I would start with the Right rear. Thats the caliper furthest from the Master C. Make sure the Master C. is full. You need some one to sit in the car. Start the motor. Then have them Pump the brakes 5-6 times. Then hold the pedal to the floor. Look for a leak? I would bleed the lines for air at this point. Same steps as above. But After the pedal is to the floor. Have them hold it there. You need to release the small "bleeder valve" that is on the top inside of the caliper. You can place a peice of 1/4 inch hose about 12-18 iches long over the tip of the valve. Then into a empty pop can. This will save on the mess you make. Now with pedal still on the floor. Open the valve about 1/2 a turn. This will let out fluid and air if there is any. The pedal will go down further to the floor as you release the valve. Do NOT LET OFF THE PEDAL WITH THE VALVE OPEN STILL!!!This will let air Back Into the system! BAD BAD THING!

After the pedal is at the very bottom. Have the person in the car tell you. Then close the valve again. You should do this as many times as you need. You have all the air out of the line when you get no bubbles or sign of air when you release the valve under pressure from the pedal in the car. You should have all brake fluid. Yoiu can them move to the left rear wheel. Then the right frt. And lastly the left frnt. After that you should have a good pedal with a quick response near the begining of pressure on the pedal.
If you find no air in the lines and can see no leaks around the piston on your caliper.... then It's master cylinder time...
Sorry for the long post... Hope this helps someone?

<small>[ July 25, 2002, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: hardtorn ]</small>
 

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OK...I had the MC and and "some switch below the MC" replaced (hardtorn - we checked and no air in the lines). Now my pedal is back but no brake booster. It's like driving my dad's old 58 Ford pickup. Pretty scary - it doesn't stop worth a damn over 30mph. I took it home from the brake shop (they closed early today/Friday) and am screwed until next week. Can't believe this is going on 6 days now without the car. What to do?!

Tom
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That sucks dude....
I would make the shop stand behind there work. If they let you take the car home. Then they were happy with the brake system. However it is not working like it should so....Give them **** on Monday.
The booster thing??? Well I'm not sure on this... i will need to do some checking into it. But there may be a fuse or a relay for the booster. I would start looking into the electrical control system for the brakes at this point. It sucks having fix things in this way. But most shops know little about the SHO's.
I will ask my dad about this at dinner toight. Should post later tonight if he has anything to add.
 

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Boost runs from vacuum. Try checking the vacuum line to the brake booster to verify you have good vacuum.

Steve
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