Read most threads on here about mounts, but saw alot of bickering between SSM and Anthony. I need the least NVH but do the job. Can you guys that have been down this road give me feedback on your experience with mounts and what worked best for you.
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Not sure about SSM but AD definitely gives you NVH and the wife also complained about the "sound" in the cabin from it.
Good thing she doesn't drive it much, because it basically eliminated my wheel hop, I'm not going back!
Good thing she doesn't drive it much, because it basically eliminated my wheel hop, I'm not going back!
FiveLeeter918
Ortiz Performance Sales
Ask your tuner to bump idle speed RPM by about 50 rpm and it will almost complete eliminate the vibration and "noise"
FiveLeeter918
Ortiz Performance Sales
I've tested both, and while I know that SSM made some improvements after Anthony went elsewhere to source them, the reviews I've seen from them recently are still less than ideal.
I first ran the SSM mounts when Anthony first brought them to market. Some will argue that Anthony didn't design them, he just provided the lengths needed and SSM manufactured them using existing designs and processes, but when I received my first set of SSM mounts, I was honestly disgusted, both as a mechanical engineer and as an Automotive Industry business professional. The welds looked like they were laid with hot glue, the "powdercoating" was already flaking off before even removing them from the box (analysis from my chemicals team determined it was Krylon, NOT powdercoat), and they literally wobbled sitting on my desk. My engineering manager saw them sitting on my desk at work and questioned if my 5 year old put them together. When I installed them, I literally felt like my teeth were going to chatter out. Drove on them for a week, then pulled them. Took them to our elastomers lab and we had the hardness tested and found that they tested at a 90 Durometer, which is WAY too high for any direct link transmission component. To put it into perspective, ABS has a durometer of 80-100, you don't want that cushioning your transmission load.
I brought this up to Anthony, who took the findings back to SSM and they basically told him this is what they offered and that they've sold thousands of this design and it's proven up to 2000 hp, which is great if you drive your car for 1/4 mile a week and it never sees the street, but these bushings looked to actually be machined out of ABS block. We actually had to use a hydraulic press to get them out of the tubing, which also appeared to be cut with a bandsaw instead of a lathe, which was likely the cause for the "wobble."
I ended up reaching out to Energy Suspension and had some 70 durometer bushings made (an existing design shortened) based on the existing dimensions, and the ride quality was drastically improved while still having anti-hop and performance characteristics. I gave this information to Anthony, and he again reached out to SSM who wasn't interested. That's when he left them and took the design to another manufacturer which still makes the design today. I ended up selling my "hybrid" setup to another user that is still running them today, and I've been running the "Tony D Gen 2" anti-hop trans mounts for about 2 years now with no issues whatsoever. He's used my specified bushing in a tubular mount and I rarely hear of anyone having issues. There are a few customers occasionally that get false knock with a few select tuners, but it's typically based on knock sensor sensitivity for adaptive tunes but can easily be remedied with a tuning calibration.
I first ran the SSM mounts when Anthony first brought them to market. Some will argue that Anthony didn't design them, he just provided the lengths needed and SSM manufactured them using existing designs and processes, but when I received my first set of SSM mounts, I was honestly disgusted, both as a mechanical engineer and as an Automotive Industry business professional. The welds looked like they were laid with hot glue, the "powdercoating" was already flaking off before even removing them from the box (analysis from my chemicals team determined it was Krylon, NOT powdercoat), and they literally wobbled sitting on my desk. My engineering manager saw them sitting on my desk at work and questioned if my 5 year old put them together. When I installed them, I literally felt like my teeth were going to chatter out. Drove on them for a week, then pulled them. Took them to our elastomers lab and we had the hardness tested and found that they tested at a 90 Durometer, which is WAY too high for any direct link transmission component. To put it into perspective, ABS has a durometer of 80-100, you don't want that cushioning your transmission load.
I brought this up to Anthony, who took the findings back to SSM and they basically told him this is what they offered and that they've sold thousands of this design and it's proven up to 2000 hp, which is great if you drive your car for 1/4 mile a week and it never sees the street, but these bushings looked to actually be machined out of ABS block. We actually had to use a hydraulic press to get them out of the tubing, which also appeared to be cut with a bandsaw instead of a lathe, which was likely the cause for the "wobble."
I ended up reaching out to Energy Suspension and had some 70 durometer bushings made (an existing design shortened) based on the existing dimensions, and the ride quality was drastically improved while still having anti-hop and performance characteristics. I gave this information to Anthony, and he again reached out to SSM who wasn't interested. That's when he left them and took the design to another manufacturer which still makes the design today. I ended up selling my "hybrid" setup to another user that is still running them today, and I've been running the "Tony D Gen 2" anti-hop trans mounts for about 2 years now with no issues whatsoever. He's used my specified bushing in a tubular mount and I rarely hear of anyone having issues. There are a few customers occasionally that get false knock with a few select tuners, but it's typically based on knock sensor sensitivity for adaptive tunes but can easily be remedied with a tuning calibration.
thanks for all the info. After my E30 tune was loaded, I suffered my first wheel hop and it scared the **** out of me. So I've been playing nice with the car until I get this issue resolved.
GotGrip?
Conversation Ruiner
Can't say I've experienced anything bad on my SSM mounts, they were in my car for about 2 years and tons of launches without issue. I did however recently switch to AD mounts just to try them and the only difference I noticed it that it "feels" different but I won't say its better or worse in terms of function.
SM105K
Streetlight Grand Prix Champ/ IG @fafomotorsports
The sound is one of the best attributes to the AD mounts! LOL.
Well I made the purchase for AD mounts. Found him on Facebook, lightning fast response to my reply. Easy transaction. And within 2 minutes of paying I had a tracking number. This guy is on his A game. After spending time and reading all the past comments and arguments on here about mounts, I could not find one negative post about AD mount quality. A few NVH complaints, but no quality complaints. Brad even got back and informed me that he left idle rpm adjustment open on the X4 so if needed I can adjust to tone down the NVH, but if I have a issue he would rectify it himself.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to get rid of it because it gives it a nice little growl, and I like it!
SM105K
Streetlight Grand Prix Champ/ IG @fafomotorsports
Yes sir. The AD mounts are damn good. Between the fit, finish, and function...they deliver period.
yaycandy
Aerospace Engineer
Depending in your tune you can up your idle speed yourself and reflash your tune. I think i did 50 rpm also. It would rattle my exhaust really bad at idle
Brad got back, and kept it pretty easy. Let car achieve it's idle, press gas until NVH reaches minimal, set idle for that rpm. If my x4 doesn't allow me to set that sweet spot he will do it on his end. Mounts arrive today, being a 2018 I only have one to replace. And Ken Kyle mentioned to me to be patient, give it at least 1,000 miles before I make up my mind, he said he has 45,000 miles on his AD mounts, and no issues. To me subsiding the wheel hop is priority #1. Thanks again to for everyone's input.
yaycandy
Aerospace Engineer
Check the grease on them when you do an oil change since they are right there. Ive been doing a little squeeze at every oil change
Bluezone
Tailgaters will be prosecuted.
If you're experiencing NVH with either torque mount, I would suggest checking the engine and upper transmission mounts to see to see if they are shot.
With being a 2018 I have just the one to replace, bought her 4 months ago, and now has 44,000 miles. Low ending idle hours when I got her, and
a dealer once over found she was never tuned . Was good news for me that she wasnt beat on, just an unfortunate fender bender before I aquired her so I'm hopeful that raising idle, and allowing break in of at least 1,000 miles I won't have any issues. Mounts arrived today, "AD only sells as a set no matter year" , I'll install new mount tomorrow and see how it goes.
with only one mount about a 1/8 beer job. will take you longer to find the 15mm wrench at best.
Installed AD mount today, and for me the NVH is negligible at best. I did follow his instructions, Drove around leaving bolts loose, went into reverse a few times. Then torqued bolts. Did some city driving after so I would be sitting at a few lights. Just a hare more shake, but nothing to make me want to up the rpm. No wheel hop and I tried many many times. Well worth the 200 dollars. And the quality, the welds look so smooth, coating was top notch. S c r e w the break in period, there great from the get go. Sent AD a message on Facebook, gave him respect he deserves.
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