atx to mtx swap

[darth_zamiel]

this covers gen2 and gen3. i have a 97 bone stock, 95k, not welded with the 100k looming i am trying to figure out if a mtx from a gen 2 will bolt straight onto the 3.4 block. if i can clear that hurdle i think i can make the rest work. thanks for any help.

 

[yamahaSHO]

No it will not...

 

[SHO#7]

95k and not welded. Spend $500-$700 on your 100k and camweld first.

You will love your car so much more. Then figure out the ATX to MTX swap.

Also I recommend you visit www.V8SHO.com

 

[Yamaha V6]

You would need a Duratec-based manual transaxle (Cougar / Contour).

You would also need a custom engine management system, since the V8 SHO's engine computer only came in ATX flavors.

Look into MSD Ignition's new coil-on-plug system - that'd be an all-inclusive way of possibly handling that.

 

[SHOZ123]

I wonder if the MSD coils are any more durable? I assume they coils could be adapted to the OEM plug and just swapped out using OEM/after market chip programming & wiring.

 

[Glue Maker]

I thought the only difference between an ATX and MTX computer was a shift schedule?

 

[Axianator]

I thought the only difference between an ATX and MTX computer was a shift schedule?

I'm afraid that there's quite a bit more to it than that.

 

[darth_zamiel]

i knew it was a long shot. plenty of other mods to spend money on. i plan to pull every thing and do it right. i'm a big fan of overkill i'll have other questions along the way, for now i will just plan on getting the shift kit and maybe trying to fit a quaife. thanks for the help.

 

[Petersho1]

yeah, long shot, IIRC it will cost you 4000$

 

[Gen2Gen3WhatNxt]

Wow you think its possible to do this for only four thousand dollors! I think i may try this when my slushbox runs out of life.

 

[Bradley]

I'm afraid that there's quite a bit more to it than that.

Actualy....no.

If you had a mtx bolted up youd throw a hand full of codes for missing sensors that are no longer needed. All you need is a basic chip to remove the codes!

you could hook one up with no programing and get it to run right off the bat! (wth no issues or sode effects!)

5-Speed swap beginigns
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7249&hl=5-speed&st=0

5-Speed Info
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8448

5-Speed Mounted!
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9663

 

[Axianator]

Actualy....no.

If you had a mtx bolted up youd throw a hand full of codes for missing sensors that are no longer needed. All you need is a basic chip to remove the codes!

you could hook one up with no programing and get it to run right off the bat! (wth no issues or sode effects!)

5-Speed swap beginigns
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7249&hl=5-speed&st=0

5-Speed Info
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8448

5-Speed Mounted!
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9663

Brad,

My comment that "there's quite a bit more to it than that" was actually in response to Glue Maker's question that "the only difference between an ATX and MTX computer was a shift schedule". The answer to his question in this case would be no, as there is quite a bit more to the ATX computer than just the shifting schedule.

Excellent work on the Project Baby SHO, though! I didn't realize that you and 'TeH Bob' had brought it as far as you have.

 

[Bradley]

yeah, long shot, IIRC it will cost you 4000$

Depends on alot as to cost. at this point, the project has cost me only a few undred dollars in travel expenses. Parts have cost esentially nothing,

For the average person, DIY, it would be 1-2k maybe more depending on how much stuff you rebuild.

The biggest expensie of this project will be the tranny rebuild, which will be about $1K (all new syncros, blocking rings, shift fork(s), LSD, etc)

Brad

 

[Bradley]

Brad,

My comment that "there's quite a bit more to it than that" was actually in response to Glue Maker's question that "the only difference between an ATX and MTX computer was a shift schedule". The answer to his question in this case would be no, as there is quite a bit more to the ATX computer than just the shifting schedule.

Excellent work on the Project Baby SHO, though! I didn't realize that you and 'TeH Bob' had brought it as far as you have.

Thanks!

 

[Petersho1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Petersho1
yeah, long shot, IIRC it will cost you 4000$



Depends on alot as to cost. at this point, the project has cost me only a few undred dollars in travel expenses. Parts have cost esentially nothing,

For the average person, DIY, it would be 1-2k maybe more depending on how much stuff you rebuild.

The biggest expensie of this project will be the tranny rebuild, which will be about $1K (all new syncros, blocking rings, shift fork(s), LSD, etc)

Brad


I agree, it depends how much you can do by yourself. 4,000$ include new MTX, custom chip and labor. Someone posted on this forum a year ago IIRC and sad he can do it for 4k. Not sure, but the price included new 6speed MTX from europen Ford Mondeo STI.
One for sure, it can be done :****:

 

[Bradley]

the only perosn that could claim that is Terry Hanes. Hes got hook ups!

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Just to be clear, this conversion being talked about is a Duratec SLO and not a Yamaha SHO, correct?

 

[Petersho1]

We are talking about SHO V8.
SHO V8 is Duratec 2.5 V6+2 cyl, 2.5 litters/6cyl=0.42*8=3.33 litters.
Yamaha just made the intake.

 

[Glue Maker]

Yamaha just made the intake.

Oh God, he said it!

 

[Petersho1]

Sorry, we DO NOT talk about our secret, right?