3.0L-3.3L how can you tell if block is 93-95?

[adidas_kn]

I have a Used Bondurant engine from FPS in Atlanta and I am preparing it for boost. I always like the saying "Go BIG or Go Home" If I am boring the block anyways for some 8;5:1 L/C pistons I might as well go to 3.3L if possible. The extra cylinder volume will be filled by a large turbo. Are there any part #'s on the block or heads to determine if it is a block good for a 93mm bore for the 3.3L pistons? I have pix of the block with the heads off if that will help. Also do the Wiesco 3.3L pistons come with their needed rings?

Later
"J"

 

[Sh03d]

Bad picture but do you see the webbing on the side of the block?(bottom of the picture) That and something up front will show you.

Someone had a really good write up about it.

I would look into a good way of cooling the engine. The deceased amount of meat on the cylinder walls may cause a problem but it really hasn't been tested. I know you posted about a pushing fan and a double core radiator so go ahead and do it. Should be awesome.

 

[adidas_kn]

Is that picture of your engine? Before or after the 3.3L bore? Did you start with a 3.0L block or a 3.2?

 

[adidas_kn]

Duh I just read you sig. It is a bare 3.2L block

 

[Sh03d]

That is my engine with a 3.2 bore.
It is now waiting to be taken to a second machine shop because the first did not have the right machine to bore a 50 degree block.

 

[somedude_001]

i saw this pic a while back in reference to the difference between the 3.0 vs 3.2 so maybe this will help or maybe not, i think the 3.2 was the bottom block.

http://70.86.182.66/~sonikemp/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1657

 

[Sh03d]

Hah they took my picture.

 

[somedude_001]

Hah they took my picture.

that is my friends website i just posted it, it is free for anyone that needs to post pics

 

[Sh03d]

that is my friends website i just posted it, it is free for anyone that needs to post pics

Its cool. I don't have a problem with it.
Here is another one.

 

[Sh03d]

Duh I just read you sig. It is a bare 3.2L block

So do you have a 93-95? If not I have heard of sleeveing the engine but that would be a risky and costly job.

 

[adidas_kn]

I just got off the phone with Doug Lewis at FPS and he says that the engines are 93-95's and that they can't be bored to 3.3L only 3.2L. I will have to check with Josh at SHOnut to verify this. I need to order the pistons soon if I am going to do this.

 

[Sh03d]

The 3.0 93-95 are the same block as 3.2 I don't know why you could not. Was he talking about 3.3 and FI factor?

 

[somedude_001]

honestly if its already bored to a 3.2 you can still make a huge amount of power with these engines.

 

[SinisterSHO]

FWIW, its not even really a 3.3, it will be a 3.26 when your finished.

 

[SolidState]

I can't really understand why people go crazy over boring it an additional .1L...especially with the potential downsides.

 

[ManySHOs]

I put these pictures together last year along with the explanation to show the differences between 89-92 and 93-95 blocks.

http://www.ethzero.net/~ianf/engine/stud.htm

Personally I don't think I would put a ton of boost through a 3.3. I think that you will have cooling issues. Having driven a 6 psi blown SHO I can attest that there is more than enough power at 6 psi for a FWD sedan. Going all out might sound great on paper and earn bragging rights but you could be chasing problems and issues down for a long time.

Not that I wouldn't mind owning Tim's turbo SHO or Jason Zuress's SC'ed 95. They are both great cars but the amount of work, time and dedication put into those cars is staggering.

Ian

 

[HoustinoJillian]

I can't really understand why people go crazy over boring it an additional .1L...especially with the potential downsides.

switching from a 3.0 to a 3.2 is very noticable, i'd assume going from 3.0 to 3.26/3.3 would be even better.

there's no replacement for displacement.

 

[adidas_kn]

Think cooling would be an issue?If that is true I might just stick with a 3.2L bore out. I am planning on running allot of boost 12-18# but in controlled stages in different gears. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd will only see about 7-9#'s to keep some traction with ultra sticky tires and 4th - 5th will get hellatious amounts for high speed runs. The boost will be controlled by the cool new Turbo Smart E-Boost 2 boost controller gauge.

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[adidas_kn]

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[AREA 91]

SHO sounds like a great toy. Where did you get it? How mutch does it cost?