K&N or AirHog Air Filter

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randy'sho

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LOL, no...Actually I've been building vehicles for years, as a hobby and as a professional (overland expedition vehicles where filtration in dusty areas is critical). Try this. Pull the intake hose/MAF and clean it all with a good cleaner and re-install it with a paper filter. Run it for 6 or 7 k. Pull it out and run your finger in the MAF and up the hose towards the TB. DO the same experiment with the K&N. You WILL (I say WILL, not should) find far mor dust in the intake tube with the K&N. Poke around the diesel forums and see some of the tests they've done for the K&N VS Paper filters.

So, the next time you whip up a sarcastic remark, based on nothing but the TV commercials you watch and what some dude said, ask yourself, "Is it possible that this guy has experience in dealing with this issue....more than me perhaps?" Sure, for all I know you could work at Roush, engineering their filtering systems for the cars, but based on your blind faith in the K&N, I doubt it.



Cheers,

RJ

PS...Actually, my father-in-law, despite my advice, runs wal-mart oil and Fram filters...his last '91 Toyota went over 270k with NO issues. The truck is still running to this day. His current DD is at 200k with the same oil and filter brand...so Shows how much I know LOL

no blind faith here douche, i have been running k&n's for years with NO problems....actually i love them! the only reason your father in law vehicle is still running is because it is a toyota and they last forever! i think that you just like being a ******...i am just stating my experiences with k&n's
 

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I run a huge cone cotton filter on my V8, not K&N and I really don't know what it is. Got it from the SHO Shop. This is in my fenderwell too.

I have not noticed my MAF getting dirt in it and the filaments don't get dirty either.

I do only clean it about once every two years. Clean the MAF about once a year. I do follow the instructions when cleaning and re-oiling. And do let it set 24 hours each between cleaning, then oiling, before using. Had this filter since 2000 or so.

If I were to get another cone filter I would get one of the oilless synthetics though. Save even more money and very easy to clean with just dish soap and hot water.
 

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hmmmmmmmmmm so what about foam filters? or AEM dryflow filters?

FWIW, Tom has a conical cotton gauze (i.e., K&N-like, might even be a K&N) filter on The Other Woman, or at least did when it was n/a. I saw the inside of the intake after he got back from a trip to the dunes and it was covered with a very substantial layer of fine dust. He's since been running with a fabric cover on the filter and possibly a foam sheath as well. Maybe he'll speak up here if he feels so inclined.

I think if you run a cotton gauze filter (e.g., K&N, Air Hog, etc.) in an environment that has any dust at all, you're well advised to have a foam and/or fine fabric cover on it. That should help the filtering, but whether it gets it up to the performance of a paper filter or not is unknown to me. It'll also probably negate the whopping 1-3hp improvement you may have had with the cotton alone.

Or you could just run a paper filter.

People with aftermarket intakes or engine conversions that have conical filters often don't have a choice. My SVTF has a short ram intake that was on it when I bought it and it has a conical cotton-gauze filter. I've tried to fit a number of cylindrical or conical paper filters on there, but haven't found anything that fits well enough to work. So I'm stuck with it until I can find a stock MAF housing (to put a stock airbox back in) or a paper filter that'll work.
 

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I have so many engines around that I should stop running air filter's all together.


P.S. On a serious note, My family has at least 17 K&N filters on our car's. Almost everyone! K & N should send us a christmas card.
 

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FWIW, Tom has a conical cotton gauze (i.e., K&N-like, might even be a K&N) filter on The Other Woman, or at least did when it was n/a. I saw the inside of the intake after he got back from a trip to the dunes and it was covered with a very substantial layer of fine dust. He's since been running with a fabric cover on the filter and possibly a foam sheath as well. Maybe he'll speak up here if he feels so inclined.

I think if you run a cotton gauze filter (e.g., K&N, Air Hog, etc.) in an environment that has any dust at all, you're well advised to have a foam and/or fine fabric cover on it. That should help the filtering, but whether it gets it up to the performance of a paper filter or not is unknown to me. It'll also probably negate the whopping 1-3hp improvement you may have had with the cotton alone.

Or you could just run a paper filter.

People with aftermarket intakes or engine conversions that have conical filters often don't have a choice. My SVTF has a short ram intake that was on it when I bought it and it has a conical cotton-gauze filter. I've tried to fit a number of cylindrical or conical paper filters on there, but haven't found anything that fits well enough to work. So I'm stuck with it until I can find a stock MAF housing (to put a stock airbox back in) or a paper filter that'll work.


Have you tried the Napa # 2726 PAPER cone style filter?
 

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Another thing to consider is the particle size of the dirt being ingested.
 

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