Stainless Works, I believe Corsa - could be wrong and PPE - I have non catted - but they sell performance catted as well.
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Stupid perfornance Questions
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Ta2dResqr
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Cooler plugs are for the advanced timing and higher boost. It causes the cylinder pressure to be higher and hotter. The replacement plugs will help combat this, they are a tighter gap to resist the spark being blown out, and they are a maintenance item that needs replaced anyways.
The oil catch can is a separate item. EPA has required that the PCV system is closed to prevent emissions. This means that the positive pressure in the crankcase that travels up into the heads goes through a valve and is released into your intake. This then goes through your throttle body, intake manifold, and past your valves. It will leave deposits all through your engine. Mainly on the valves and pistons. Here it is exposed to high temperatures and is burnt into carbon residue. This will change combustion chamber size and flow as well as cause valve problems. In other cars that have the fuel injected into the intake manifold, some of this is washed away by the fuel. In our cars, the fuel is directed into the cylinder. There is nothing to wash away the carbon, so it builds up faster and to more extremes. An oil catch can routes the PCV air through a filter media and then to the intake. This will remove the oil and you can dump it out when you change your oil. Setups vary widely in price (~$100-500). You get what you pay for in most cases.
SM105K
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His video is flawed. Couple of things.
First of all he is getting unfiltered air into his air box that is coming from a dirtier source. Not good for turbos, esp with being how small the compressor wheels are.
Second, it doesn't matter how much air volume you pick up. If the turbos cannot use it, it is a moot point.
Third, you will never be able to get intake air temps (to the box) lower than ambient without a some type of chemical cooler or physical cooler.
Fourth, he doesn't "document" anything. The test needs to be get done in the same conditions, same speed, and same throttle input. He claimed there are a couple of degrees difference. I saw a quick 123 degrees when he gave it some gas after, then the IAT's quickly bounces back into the 130's completely negating the reason. Now it if it dropped it 10 to 15 degrees and maintained it he might be on to something. It thermally cannot maintain it.
In the real world this will do nothing. The limiting factor is the stock IC. You are introducing "more" dirty ambient temp air into an environment that it cannot be used because of turbo size. No matter how much you increase the volume of ambient air temp it has zero effect on how effective the stock IC is. Only air temp it does. If it is colder the IC works better, if it is hotter...it works worse.
First of all he is getting unfiltered air into his air box that is coming from a dirtier source. Not good for turbos, esp with being how small the compressor wheels are.
Second, it doesn't matter how much air volume you pick up. If the turbos cannot use it, it is a moot point.
Third, you will never be able to get intake air temps (to the box) lower than ambient without a some type of chemical cooler or physical cooler.
Fourth, he doesn't "document" anything. The test needs to be get done in the same conditions, same speed, and same throttle input. He claimed there are a couple of degrees difference. I saw a quick 123 degrees when he gave it some gas after, then the IAT's quickly bounces back into the 130's completely negating the reason. Now it if it dropped it 10 to 15 degrees and maintained it he might be on to something. It thermally cannot maintain it.
In the real world this will do nothing. The limiting factor is the stock IC. You are introducing "more" dirty ambient temp air into an environment that it cannot be used because of turbo size. No matter how much you increase the volume of ambient air temp it has zero effect on how effective the stock IC is. Only air temp it does. If it is colder the IC works better, if it is hotter...it works worse.
Ta2dResqr
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https://www.reischeperformance.com/WhyLowTemp.html
This is some good knowledge on a low temp thermostat. There are cheaper models available but, most are not designed the same way as the factory thermostat. This does play into how efficiently the car operates and the warm up process. There are some good reads on this where they explain the differences and exactly what it does. GearHead uses the Reische thermostat that is properly designed and it has a good warranty.
https://www.reischeperformance.com/F4Ddata.html
Ta2dResqr
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Look at people's mod lists in their signature. You will see the good brands for all kinds of mods. StainlessWorks and PPE are the most common.
Ta2dResqr
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What are you planning to do to the exhaust? Most tuners have a re-tune fee that depends if you bought the mod from them and how big of a mod it is. It sounds a lot more complicated than it is. If you are comfortable using the tuner (installing tunes), then they give you directions on how to data log and it is a similar difficulty level.
Luhsleeper88
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Right everybody is saying that gearhead is a great company but I thought that the X4 already had pretunes so it would be easier but clearly not. Could anybody get me more information on the flash tune? Like maybe a video or form? Thanks
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The Livewire or SCT X4 come with stock tunes for the stock - not modified Taurus SHO. Yes - no changes otherwise the canned tunes are crud.
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SM105K
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There shouldn't be any pre canned tunes on the X4. If there they are trash. We continue to tell you to contact a tuner. GH is good, AJP is great...ect. Once you get in touch with a tuner, they will give you a list of things you will need to do. Follow the instructions, it is that easy.
Joshw0000
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Loading a tune is loading a tune. Whoever wrote it, it's the same process and the tuner (X4) basically walks you through the steps for it. Data logging isn't hard either. Think of it as a recording of your cars computer, just like logging a computer software. Turn it on, do whatever, stop. It creates a file that you transfer to someone for review.
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Joshw0000
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And the X4 has a SD card slot. So transferring files to and from the tuner are easy as well.
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Luhsleeper88
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Absolute last question I just need to send all that data to gearhead and they can send me a tune? Is that what the “GearHead AO Performance File” is?
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Luhsleeper88
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That’s all I need thank y’all so much I very much appreciate it
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Hey @Luhsleeper88 while on the phone with them - ask them when the damn next batch of intercooler will be in stock already? HAHAHA - they will get the joke - believe me they will.
Joshw0000
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I didn't go through GH, so I'm not familiar with their process. Honestly, you'd be better off just calling them and letting them explain it.
Once you have the tuner in hand, it'll all make a lot more sense. The whole process will consist of backing up the factory tune (save it to an external source in case the tuner breaks or gets stolen), datalog/send/download/flash/datalog/send/download/flash.
The more difficult part is installing the go-fast parts and/or paying for them.
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Ta2dResqr
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Not true. The SCT device does not include any preloaded tunes for our application. You can go to their website and search the Taurus SHO and look at both the X4 and LiveWire. There is a read warning that says there are no preloaded tunes.
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Joshw0000
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I just realized this whole time I've said I have the X4, but that's wrong. I have the TS+.
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Ta2dResqr
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You buy the Power Pack from GearHead. They mail it to you. You plug the tuner in and get your Strategy Code. You fill out the Tuning Form with your mods and Strategy Code. They email you the base tune. You install ALL the mods that you listed. You tune the car with the tuning device. You do the data logs as they directed. You send those files to them. They edit your tune and send it to you. You upload that tune to the car and data log again. Repeat until the tuner says it looks good and they don't need more data logs until you modify something else.
Ta2dResqr
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The TS+ is the LiveWire TS+ and it does not have preloaded tunes. If you bought it and it had tunes on it, the company that sold it to you put some generic crap tune on it and it is not made by SCT.I just realized this whole time I've said I have the X4, but that's wrong. I have the TS+.
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