Upgrading the brakes... some advice needed AND given!

[rcryniak]

Yep.

Which is why I ran them exclusively, before having upgraded one giant step forward to the Wilwood's all the way around.

The EBC Yellow's served me INCREDIBLY well.

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And now I'm thinking maybe *I* should upgrade to yellow, lol.

 

[SHOdded]

Just do it, man, just do it!

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Would this set up fit 2013 SHO WITH performance package?
EBC Brake Kit - S12 Redstuff and RK Rotors (S12KF1549)
S12 Brake Kit
Redstuff Brake Pads and RK Rotors
Rotor Diameter : 13.9in
Thanks for any help

 

[bpd1151]

Do NOT waste your time with the Red Stuff pads.

Seriously.

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[SHOdded]

https://thmotorsports.com/ebc-brakes/ebc-brake-kit-s13-yellowstuff-and-rk-rotors/g-80330.aspx

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Ok, I went to cts-v forum and poked around. They not fond of yellow stuff. They like their OEM pads, but they supposed to be 250 a set. That why they look for diff brake pads.

 

[SHOdded]

What are their OEM pads like? If they use Brembo brakes to begin with, it's a different category from our brakes anyway.

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Not sure I was researching yellowstuff. Some had Brembos as they were mentioned. Not sure if that what is stock or option. I wish we had Brembos stock....

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Going with the EBC RK rotors and yellowstuff pad set, 187 shipped too good a deal....
https://thmotorsports.com/ebc-brakes/ebc-brake-kit-s13-yellowstuff-and-rk-rotors/g-80330.aspx
Thanks SHOdded

 

[SHOdded]

Good luck, hope u like em!

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Stay with stock, EBC, HAWK level 21, or DBA 4000 ....proven no hassle quality companies. I went through 3 sets rotors on my G8, stock/Power slots/stop tech (worse) then put DBA 4000 gold rotors on. These actually helped me stop better, Better bite, never worped and lasted 4 years 80,000 miles until I sold the car. I can't afford them now or I would get them again. Stay with proven known brands. Good luck. I am ordering yellowstuff with EBC RK SPORT rotors for front 187 bucks shipped. Or whenever yellowstuff is not backordered

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Well ordered the S13 set up, but might be screwed. Ordered 5 days ago and still no shipping info, or response from vendor.....if this not work out, I am doing either Powerslots, Stop techs, R1 concepts or Brakemotives, all about same price 150 for fronts and then either stock, PFC carbon metallics, or Z37 top cop pads.

 

[SHOdded]

Try contacting raceconsultingagency.com, see if they can get the parts for you, just in case. They say they will pricematch also.

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Actually right after posting I got an email saying they were actually shipped fri, so I retract my sour feeling and await actual delivery. I think the S13 set up is perfect for my aggressive, though no race tracks or autocross or drifting, 4x4, offroad, Mexican highway roll on races or other shanigans. Whenever I do maintenance or casual upgrade I like to do better then stock. The PP with PFC carbon fiber semi mettalics and no hokes or slots but WITH vents stock rotors held up nicely (no mountains around either). So I found Hawk HPS was basically a match. They don't make the HPS 5.0 version for our car yet. Z37 top cop might be good. Or those arimid ceramics, but they not made for us yet. The yellowstuff might be perfect if overkill for me. And the EBC RK s though no holes or slots (not sure on vents) are a good solid well machined quality piece for the street. Not sure if my stock or new set up uses those clips..my vendor assured me if it was needed it will be in there....

 

[RonPorter]

Doing my once every 3+ month Forum trip(!!!!)

Just some thoughts on catching up on things:

EBC Reds are about as old as PFCM pads (the only aftermarket pads for Gen 1 SHOs in 1991)! The Yellows were an upgrade in a lot of ways. I personally wouldn't put Green or Red on anything, if I ever bought EBC. If I did, I would run their new Blue pad.

Carbotech is the shitz for me.

But, 2nd behind Carbotech is Hawk. Dunno all the applications that fit your cars, and it sounds like the new HPS 5.0 street pads aren't out yet, but HP+ kick ass, and the new Street/Race pads look even better for an all around pad. Here's their chart: http://www.hawkperformance.com/street-performance-compound-application

And, as I repeat: Cheapest blank rotors, Valvoline Synthetic DOT4 is great, and all that 99.99% need, and spend the $$$ you save on PADS!

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Old post but.....I got the EBC S13 kit with EBC RK SPORT rotors no slots no holes with yellowstuff pads- freaking awesome! Great in cold and wet, no negatives so far. Have Goodrich SS brakelines. I did notice brake pedal has better feel with the metal lines. They don't last forever though about 4 years I get out of them in other cars. My 13 PP SHO requires Dot 4, right on the brake fluid container. I thought Motul 600 temp was Dot 5....not compatible with 3 or 5 being silicone based? Must not have any 3 or 4 in the system at all and must super flush if changing to one or the other. The yellowstuff pads are the best pads I ever used but do make dust about like the PP performance friction pads, maybe a little more....

 

[RonPorter]

No, Motul 600 is DOT 3/4, not silicon DOT 5. DOT 5 isn't really a performance fluid anyway, it's for your 30s era Duesenberg that will be parked for decades.

You also don't want Motul 600. Expensive, and way overkill for the street. More importantly, it's more hydroscopic than other DOT 4, as really meant to be flushed after each race. Flushing annually would be a MUST for street driving, and after every couple of track events, if you do tracks.

Good pads alone can definitely give a better pedal feel, so it may not be the SS lines. Which are another option that I feel aren't worth the money. You have to keep an eye on them, and they don't last very long.

 

[SHOdded]

Valvoline full syn brake fluid is recommended, right, Ron?

 

[RonPorter]

Yep, for our situations, it works great. Available about everywhere and priced right. To give a bit higher in dry/wet temps starts getting expensive. For 20 minute track sessions, or heavy street use, more than enough.

When you see those 600+ dry temp fluids, think NASCAR or other race series, with much higher speeds for a much longer period of time.

 

[JAMES'12SHO]

Doing my once every 3+ month Forum trip(!!!!)

Just some thoughts on catching up on things:

EBC Reds are about as old as PFCM pads (the only aftermarket pads for Gen 1 SHOs in 1991)! The Yellows were an upgrade in a lot of ways. I personally wouldn't put Green or Red on anything, if I ever bought EBC. If I did, I would run their new Blue pad.

Carbotech is the shitz for me.

But, 2nd behind Carbotech is Hawk. Dunno all the applications that fit your cars, and it sounds like the new HPS 5.0 street pads aren't out yet, but HP+ kick ass, and the new Street/Race pads look even better for an all around pad. Here's their chart: http://www.hawkperformance.com/street-performance-compound-application

And, as I repeat: Cheapest blank rotors, Valvoline Synthetic DOT4 is great, and all that 99.99% need, and spend the $$$ you save on PADS!

Your statement about blank rotors and staying away from ss lines intrigue me. I use to work for stop tech and while I agree that motul is only something for a dedicated track car, the Benefits of slotted, not drilled rotors and ss lines are well worth the change. The slots act as a method of evacuating gasses and debris from the rotors resulting in cooler operating temps, more consistent pedal modulation, and shorter stopping distances. The ss lines are for consistency in pedal modulation. They should be coated and DOT approved. If the engineers that designed the lines are any good they should last in a DD for several years. The prior owners of stop tech still have the original lines in each of their cars more than a decade later. And the do track them. For the rotors, the quality of the steel is more important than blank, slotted, or drilled. Cheap steel doesn’t work well. Good quality blank rotors that are then drilled will offer better stopping than if left blank.