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Hello laddies and gentlemen. I plan to order the remaining supplies needed for my 96 brake kit. I have a 93 MTX so I have spindles, FN74 brackets, and calipers. I have pads and rotors left (and maybe ss lines). I'm trying to make up my mind between the raybestos ("professional grade") semi-metalic pads found here:http: //www.rcmautomotive.com/id24.html or carbon metallic pads found here: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/d...=Search_C0068_1139071_1821&pt=C0068&ppt=C0009 (the car I put it under was a 97 LX). I plan to use premium rotors found here: http://www.rcmautomotive.com/id24.html also does anyone have experience with earls ss brake lines? I generally drive my car pretty agressively (responsibly of course) to the point where brake fade has been an issue in the past. Any imput is greatly appreciated as I am not the most tech savvy person on the planet! :thankyou:
 

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I have the hawk street pads and stainless lines with motorcraft rotors. A pretty good set-up, great for street driving. The stainless lines firm up the pedal nicely atlthough the fit aint so great, but the quality is there. I'd get a more performance orientated pad if you drive more agressive.
 

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I have the hawk street pads and stainless lines with motorcraft rotors. A pretty good set-up, great for street driving. The stainless lines firm up the pedal nicely atlthough the fit aint so great, but the quality is there. I'd get a more performance orientated pad if you drive more agressive.

I have heard about the shady fitment of the ss lines, how do you make em fit? the hawk street pads are semi-metalic correct? Thanks for the tips!
 

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Go with the Hawk HPS, Carbotech 1521 (I believe is the #, formerly the Bobcat), Porterfield R4s.

Those PFCM pads are older than dirt. We used 'em 15 years ago when not much else was available, but the newer ones mentioned above are better for around the same price.

Those are decent street pad upgrades. If you want better yet, and can put up with some noise and brake dust, there are other choices.
 

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Rcm has a bad reputation so you might want 2 get your rotors locally. I'm running the hawk pads as well and I like them a lot.
 

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How do you feel about dust and noise? I really like the Carbotech AX6's I have on mine, but they do dust quite a bit and will sqeak some under normal street driving. As far as rotors, I just use the higher quility ones that I get from Autozone, Advanced etc. They usually come with a warranty so I can replace them when I get new pads.
 

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+1 for Hawk HPS. The PFCMs are good pads, I've used them in the past, but I've had better luck with Hawk. Keep in mind, most information on SHOTimes is old. As Ron mentioned, there wasn't a lot of choice for pads back then.

If you're dead set on getting PFCMs, the correct part number is 0598.20. When researching pads, you want to look under 96-99 SHO, or 2001+ Taurus.
 

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Amazon link for the 96-99 PFCM pads

+1 for Hawk HPS. The PFCMs are good pads, I've used them in the past, but I've had better luck with Hawk. Keep in mind, most information on SHOTimes is old. As Ron mentioned, there wasn't a lot of choice for pads back then.

If you're dead set on getting PFCMs, the correct part number is 0598.20. When researching pads, you want to look under 96-99 SHO, or 2001+ Taurus.

http://www.amazon.com/Performance-Friction-0598-20-Carbon-Metallic/dp/B000EJ8HVQ/
 

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goto a junkyard and find a low mileage wrecked Taurus/Sable with OEM rotors

resurface them and reuse them

cheap and better then anything you can buy.....
 

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goto a junkyard and find a low mileage wrecked Taurus/Sable with OEM rotors

resurface them and reuse them

cheap and better then anything you can buy.....

Why are they better? Wouldn't resurfaceing take away material that resists fade? and has anyone tried the raybestous pads?
 

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If you think you want the PFCM pads, the AX6 pads that Jayro mentioned are FAR better, and dust a bit more.

I'm really not sure what you want. The HPS, 1521, R4s, EBC Green, etc, are basic stock pad replacements, and are a bit better.

The EBC Yellow have less dust, and can work if you bed them properly with new or reconditioned rotors. EBC Reds are comparable to the R4 or HP+, but for the dust, you can get better.

If you wanna STOP....REPEATEDLY, I am a Carbotech Fanboy. The race pads (XP8, XP10) dust the same as the AX6, and work better.
 

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My suggestion would be get a set of the "Premium" level rotors at a place like Autozone or Advanced and then get some quality pads. If you want repeated stopping power on an agressively driven street car then go with a pad like the AX6's. I don't know how the XP10 do on the street since they are a race pad....I have been told that they are safe on the street, but low temp performance is not wht they are made for.

You are going to have to make some desicions when it comes to the pads. If you want the BEST performance you are going to end up with noise and dust. If that is an issue for you then you are going to have to comprmise some performance to get no noise/dust. I don't care about noise and I have black rims so dust doesnt matter.

I say get the good rotors at AZ or Advanced because they have a warranty. If you warp them or chew them up with an aggressive pad they are replaced for FREE!

Just what I would do.
 
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My suggestion would be get a set of the "Premium" level rotors at a place like Autozone or Advanced and then get some quality pads. If you want repeated stopping power on an agressively driven street car then go with a pad like the AX6's. I don't know how the XP10 do on the street since they are a race pad....I have been told that they are safe on the street, but low temp performance is not wht they are made for.

You are going to have to make some desicions when it comes to the pads. If you want the BEST performance you are going to end up with noise and dust. If that is an issue for you then you are going to have to comprmise some performance to get no noise/dust. I don't care about noise and I have black rims so dust doesnt matter.

I say get the good rotors at AZ or Advanced because they have a warranty. If you warp them or chew them up with an aggressive pad they are replaced for FREE!

Just what I would do.

With about 5K miles experience on the XP10/XP8 combo on the '89 SHO, and after at least 3 sets of AX6 pads on the LGT, personally I will stay with the XP10 fronts going forward.

I have noticed NO lessened stopping with the XP10s when cold. Dust is the same.

Strangely enough, they are QUIETER than the AX6 on both the SHO and the SVT.
 

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I went with the carbon metallics by performance friction. Buying rotors locally doesn't sound like a bad idea. The imput is appreciated. Whats with this mounting issue on the ss lines though?
 

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I went with the carbon metallics by performance friction. Buying rotors locally doesn't sound like a bad idea. The imput is appreciated. Whats with this mounting issue on the ss lines though?

**** the SS lines. They are a waste of $$$, especially when you cheaped out with the PFCM pads.
 

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**** the SS lines. They are a waste of $$$, especially when you cheaped out with the PFCM pads.

I beg to differ! The SS lines give you a firmer peddle, which allows you to better modulate the brakes(even with stock pads). :salute:
 

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**** the SS lines. They are a waste of $$$, especially when you cheaped out with the PFCM pads.

I wasn't aware I cheaped out, all of the things I read put carbon metallics on a pedestal, only one way to find out I guess.
 

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