What to look for in an ATX?

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There is a 94 ATX for sale and I was wondering what I should of aware of about when I test drive this bad boy. I hear the ax4s can be a good tranny....but I also hear it's not. What else should I do when I inspect this car....other than the ordinary run of the mill inspection. ThaNKS!!
 

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The waterpump was replaceds....so how can I tell if the head is warped or anything else for that mattter...not use to aluminum heads....always had iron.
 

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Has it been overheated (was that why the water pump was replaced)? - If yes then you'll have to worry about warped heads, I don't think there's a good test for that besides sniffing the exhaust and checking the oil for coolant.
How many miles are on it? - More miles the more maintenance it will need
What does the trans fluid look like? - Black = bad, if there's metal flakes or pieces it probably needs a new trans and I'd stay away
Has the timing belt been done? - Not super important because it's a non interference engine but it's good to know
Is the oil 10k miles old? -These engines are much happier with 3k oil changes

Take it for a test drive and feel for the transmission slipping or slamming shifts (slipping it will rev up and not go anywhere, slamming into gear you'll feel it buck on the shifts), you'll want to get it warm to do this test. Also see if the check engine light is on and check the codes, that will help reveal any hidden issues.

Checking for oil leaks is a good idea as well. Check down around the bottom of the engine to look for leaks on the main seals and oil pan, then check around the valve covers and pull the spark plug boots and look for oil down in the wells. If you find a lot of oil down in the wells new valve cover gaskets are going to be needed at some point.

Most importantly though, CHECK THE HEATER. Get the car warm, crank up the heat and rev the nuts off it (to get the water pump going at full pressure), if it smells like coolant or the window fogs up, don't buy the car unless you have a weekend to spare or don't want heat. The heater cores in these cars like to fail and it's a massive pain the @$$ to replace it (you have to take out the dash board). Stop leak will work for a bit but then it will explode at the Fred Meyer gas station and make the attendant lady very cross.

I'm sure I've left some things out but those are what I'd look for.
 

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Ya he said the water pump and radiator were both replaced...and that just sounds like it probably overheated...cuz most people will drive an overheating vehicle longer than they should...and aluminum heads are prone to warp at high temps....I did not know SHO motors were non interference...that's pretty cool.
 

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mileage is 155k....car looks clean from the pics but they are just pics...def need to go see it in person and test drive. Does anyone know what kind of PSI I should get from a compression test for these motors to still be considered healthy?
 

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and the 94 has an AX4S or AX4N? I think Wikipedia said AX4S and what is the deal with this tranny...is it junk? I'm also wondering what parts of the driveline are prone to failure.
 

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wrong - the block is cast iron and the heads are aluminum.

the 94 atx had all the upgrades, so was more reliable than the earlier ones, but as with any complicated machine some of them fail. if the atf looks decent and it shifts well, then it should be okay for at least a while.

other common maintenance items to look for - clunks going over bumps are most often the strut mounts - not expensive but a lot of $$ if you have to pay for the labor to replace them. struts often get neglected as well and with the miles this one has if it still has factory struts they will be shot.
 

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Shocurious - You can edit posts, so if you have an afterthought you can always edit that in rather than make another one.
 
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