what should you expect for $4500 SHO?

[digeronimo34]

torn mounts, rotted strut toppers blown ball joints.......... the list is longer but the most important thing for 4500 your sho will not have is reverse (that is optional equipment on some models.

but seriously i can figure this out. The car and engine shake violently in reverse. as stated in my other post

click this link to view the complete thread including selling addhttp://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=113439

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so far i have replaced both mounts with sho shop reinforced mounts ,changed the trans mount, change the trans that had broken bolt inserts, changed back to a stock clutch pressure plate ( had junior revs) or what have you .... had the flywheel cut / ground and put all of the limiters it had none. and i could go on and on ....but that is for another thread AND STILL i still dont have reverse......but as my gang of fellow sho owners say as we scratch out heads "it just needs a trans mount........."

oh and if any ones interested i payed 4500 cash and this is my only DD

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oh oh and clutch cable but still it would be nice to go in reverse ...... i think its been a wile.
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I don't know which is worse...

The "occasional" inability to use reverse, or the "very little" rust spots that are covered in "undercoating".

By "very little", I mean significant number. And by undercoating, I mean Black RTV.

Yes, there are smears of Black RTV all over the chassis. On the door frame, around the trunk edge... and those are just the spots we've found so far.

The car isn't a complete shit show, but it was definitely not as described in that ad, not even close.

And no way in **** was it a $4500 SHO.

Oh, and Nick, we recently found your alternator harness repair. Fire Marshall Bill would like to show you something...
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torn mounts, rotted strut toppers blown ball joints.......... the list is longer but the most important thing for 4500 your sho will not have is reverse (that is optional equipment on some models.

but seriously i can figure this out. The car and engine shake violently in reverse. as stated in my other post
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Thanks to all. now if I just could get in reverse I would be great!!!!

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Thanks to all. now if I just could get in reverse I would be great!!!!
Whats wrong with reverse?
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He drives an SHO.

PROTIP:
Neutral, Clutch out, 2nd gear gate, reverse gate... repeat 'til you win.
...which does nothing for the bone-jarring chatter when you clutch out in reverse.

Just sayin'.
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Mine used to do that too. Put in some really stiff mounts and solved the issue.

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Kinda reminds me of Harry Fell's Gen3 SHO with the lights all over it. IIRC, he was a fire dept guy too, though I can't recall what area of the country he was from. I wanna say New England somewheres.

The lights look good, by the way. Looks like an Emerald Green, right? I kept imagining it was a Moonlight Blue, because that would just be sooooo sexy....
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...which does nothing for the bone-jarring chatter when you clutch out in reverse.

Just sayin'.
tru i just cut that letter out of the shift pattern

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midnight blue is what i would love it to be maybe the next on.

As far as reverse tis was nick car 1993mtxsho 1993MTXSHO
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Well guys here it is, I REALLY hate to do this, more then I can even express, but tough times call for desperate measures, and that means my beloved 94 must go (and I DO want her back one day, so by all means feel free to keep my contact info)

I'm going to start off by saying the pictures of this car are terrible and don't do it justice, I had to take them in the freezing cold and with the car not as clean as it should be. I'll get some better ones up if it ever stops snowing here.

TRADES are possible if you happen to have a 1995 Taurus SE, 92-95 SLO’s work too and I’ve always wanted a V8 SHO, so that’s not out of the question either, but I'll keep an open mind so let me know what you've got (something cheaper than my car, the reason I’m selling is to pay bills).

For starters, this car is in exceptional condition with NO RUST, all the brake lines, fuel lines, drip rails etc. are VERY clean, and any little spot that looked like it needed some coating, as well as all the hard lines, got undercoated while the car was on a lift to prevent future rust. You will be VERY hard pressed to find a black interior 3.2L MTX SHO in this condition, with the maintenance records that follow this car (I have piles of receipts). Its run synthetic brake fluid its entire life, and has had ALL the fluids changed religiously, and is currently running Amsoil synthetic engine oil. There is a heck of a story behind this car, and it’s very well known in the tri state area. If you’re a serious buyer, the whole history will be told in person if you’re interested to hear, some of you probably remember what this car used to be.

The paint is excellent, probably an 8 out of 10 and the interior is a 9 out of 10. The car was garaged kept for a good portion of its life and now has 137k miles on the body with just about 107k on the engine. I have installed a very strong set of springs (I forget what the numbers were, but they were stiffer then most) and put on different sway bars that measure 20mm up front, and 23mm in the rear.

I have loved every one of the 5 sho’s I have owned, but I have to say this is certainly one of my favorites. I have taken care of every car I own as if it were my child, and I really do not want to sell this car, but I have 2 of them currently and I am looking to get into something different for at least part of the year (winter... this car is just too nice to use in salt. Please feel free to e-mail me with any questions you may have and I will get back to you ASAP. I am still daily driving this car, so the mileage will continue to go up until it’s sold. It also has an inspection sticker good until November of 2011.

The maintenance I can remember that was done within the past 6 months or 5k miles:

*3.2L engine swapped in

*60k performed very recently as preventative maintenance:
- *New front main seal
- *New rear main seal
- *All new cam seals
- *New crank sensor
- *New timing belt
- *Valve lash adjusted
- *New water pump
- *New valve cover gaskets (yes, the plug wells are bone dry)
- *Newer Plug wires installed (probably about 30k on them, they stock motocraft replacements)
- *New Spark plugs
- *New oil pan seal
-*Intake cleaned
-*Filters installed to keep the intake clean for a long time (can be seen in the pictures across the valve cover crank case vent tube)

*NEW ROD BEARINGS, yes they have been changed, nothing was wrong, the engine wasn't knocking or any nasty stuff like that, just preventative

*All brake fluid has been flushed and replaced with Prestone synthetic fluid
*All power steering fluid has been flushed and replaced with Castrol ATF
*MTX trans has been pulled apart, cleaned, had the diff WELDED and was then refilled with Castrol ATF. It is the best shifting mtx sho transmission I have ever felt (much better than my other SHO) in all my years in the sho game. Believe me when I say it, it is a very nice transmission and I hate to get rid of the car because of it. I also put a drain plug in it when I had it all apart, so you can continue the maintenance on her. It was welded by a friend of a friend who works at 3 mile island (no jokes please haha), this guy is GOOD, you won’t find better welds anywhere else on the planet.

*New Heater Core
*Blend door motor taken apart and greased
*New Clutch release cable
*New Front brake rotors and pads
*New sunroof seal (now obsolete through Ford, and NOT cheap)
*All coolant has been flushed and replaced
*New REV B Throw out bearing
*Rear Monroe Sensa-Trac struts installed, mileage on them was unknown, they were however still very strong
*4 Wheel alignment with brand new (installed at 135,500) Z rated 225/50VR16 BFGoodrich Traction T/A’s (not cheap tires folks) (all this being said, take a car that just had front suspension work, don’t get it aligned for 1500 miles, and you’ll wear the inner edges of your new tires like they had 20000 miles on them. So really only 2 of these things are new)
*Newer low mileage strut mounts and brand new strut bearings
*New alternator (yes I have done a gen 1 alternator conversion on this car… and for those of you who don’t know, gen 1 alternators take less hp to spin)
*Pair of New straight through turbo Mufflers (yes, this car has a nice rumble)
*Set of snow tires mounted on SHO wheels will be included as well. I have never used them on this car, they were for one of my old atx sho’s that was quite the beater, so I didn’t care so much about salt, but I have no use for them anymore so if you would like them I will include them with the car. The one pair has about 95% tread remaining (goodyear ultra grips), and the other has about 40% remaining, Bridgestone Blizzaks).

MODS:
*Stage 1 SHOSHOP Jr. High revs clutch
*Welded Diff done by a professional (to prevent the infamous ejected diff pin)
*Welded subframe to prevent a broken subframe
*96 front brake upgrade with ceramic pads
*Gen 1 vented rear brake upgrade with brembo rotors and hawk pads
*Cup style Aluminum subframe bushings
*Stainless steel braded brake lines
*Under drive pulleys
*Ported intake runners (I have a set of even further ported runners that I MIGHT include with the car if interested)
*Gasket matched ported heads
*Big Bore 40mm Secondary Butterfly’s
*A/C delete (could work again with new lines and compressor)
*K&N Drop in air filter
*Aftermarket high flow y-pipe
*Dynomax catback
*22% Window tint
*Alpine headunit (I have a Memphis amp and a 2000 watt competition lanzar 15” sub as well, but this will not be included with the car, it will be extra if you want to keep it, but I am willing to sell it with the car for an extra cost.)
*Black interior swap – this interior in VERY nice shape, it is full leather and has been VERY well maintained (I polish it constantly). It has the updated 93 center console, and I know you guys know how hard they are to find.

There ARE more things I replaced and redone, but I have done so much to this car this is really all I can remember right now that was recent

The taillights are lightly tinted, and the headlights/sidemarkes have a smoked type look to them without effecting light output and it was very very time consuming to do this (I'll explain in person how it was done)

Now the bad as some of you may remember: A few thousand miles ago the converters went bad, and some got sucked up into the cylinders, I immediately noticed because the cats started to make noise. I had the engine flushed 3 times, and was told to put in a Rislone Engine restore oil additive. Since this, I have had zero problems with the car and the compression on every cylinder reads 210 PSI to this day (I am willing to run a compression test on site if you would like). The car still pulls VERY hard and is very fast, so I do not believe there is any crazy engine damage or anything. The car also needs a transmission mount, as it is starting to tear, and it shakes the car in reverse when you back up on occasion. I have one that goes with the car to replace it with, I just haven’t gotten the time to change it. It doesn’t affect the car in forward gears at all, so it was never a huge concern for me as I really never back the car up. I am going to try to get this done if I get a halfway decent day. Anyway I rambled enough, any questions, just ask

$4800 is what I want, but I am negotiable depending on what you take. For example, decide you don't want the extra set of wheel/snow's. Or you want to bring your own wheel/tire combo to throw on and let me keep the set on it; we might be able to work something out.

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so far i have replaced both mounts with sho shop reinforced mounts ,changed the trans mount, change the trans that had broken bolt inserts, changed back to a stock clutch pressure plate ( had junior revs) or what have you .... had the flywheel cut / ground and put all of the limiters it had none. and i could go on and on ....but that is for another thread AND STILL i still dont have reverse......but as my gang of fellow sho owners say as we scratch out heads "it just needs a trans mount........."

oh and if any ones interested i payed 4500 cash and this is my only DD

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oh oh and clutch cable but still it would be nice to go in reverse ...... i think its been a wile.
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I don't know which is worse...

The "occasional" inability to use reverse, or the "very little" rust spots that are covered in "undercoating".

By "very little", I mean significant number. And by undercoating, I mean Black RTV.

Yes, there are smears of Black RTV all over the chassis. On the door frame, around the trunk edge... and those are just the spots we've found so far.

The car isn't a complete shit show, but it was definitely not as described in that ad, not even close.

And no way in **** was it a $4500 SHO.

Oh, and Nick, we recently found your alternator harness repair. Fire Marshall Bill would like to show you something...
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Thats very difficult to read. Why would you copy and paste text all the way down a thread?

 

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sorry it was the easiest way to get all the information from the other thread.

 

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Just put a link to the other thread.

 

[digeronimo34]

hows that more manageable?

 

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A thread is more easily read than the contents of said thread highlighted, cut and pasted into a new thread with no easily readable way of discerning post from post.

Not trying to give you balls, but most will see the mess above and simply move on instead of trying to figure out what is pasted, where it starts, who psted what part, and in what order.

 

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See, whats easier to read ... the thread itself or this:

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torn mounts, rotted strut toppers blown ball joints.......... the list is longer but the most important thing for 4500 your sho will not have is reverse (that is optional equipment on some models.

but seriously i can figure this out. The car and engine shake violently in reverse. as stated in my other post

click this link to view the complete thread including selling addhttp://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=113439

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so far i have replaced both mounts with sho shop reinforced mounts ,changed the trans mount, change the trans that had broken bolt inserts, changed back to a stock clutch pressure plate ( had junior revs) or what have you .... had the flywheel cut / ground and put all of the limiters it had none. and i could go on and on ....but that is for another thread AND STILL i still dont have reverse......but as my gang of fellow sho owners say as we scratch out heads "it just needs a trans mount........."

oh and if any ones interested i payed 4500 cash and this is my only DD

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oh oh and clutch cable but still it would be nice to go in reverse ...... i think its been a wile.
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I don't know which is worse...

The "occasional" inability to use reverse, or the "very little" rust spots that are covered in "undercoating".

By "very little", I mean significant number. And by undercoating, I mean Black RTV.

Yes, there are smears of Black RTV all over the chassis. On the door frame, around the trunk edge... and those are just the spots we've found so far.

The car isn't a complete shit show, but it was definitely not as described in that ad, not even close.

And no way in **** was it a $4500 SHO.

Oh, and Nick, we recently found your alternator harness repair. Fire Marshall Bill would like to show you something...
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torn mounts, rotted strut toppers blown ball joints.......... the list is longer but the most important thing for 4500 your sho will not have is reverse (that is optional equipment on some models.

but seriously i can figure this out. The car and engine shake violently in reverse. as stated in my other post
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Thanks to all. now if I just could get in reverse I would be great!!!!

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Whats wrong with reverse?
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He drives an SHO.

PROTIP:
Neutral, Clutch out, 2nd gear gate, reverse gate... repeat 'til you win.
...which does nothing for the bone-jarring chatter when you clutch out in reverse.

Just sayin'.
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Mine used to do that too. Put in some really stiff mounts and solved the issue.

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Kinda reminds me of Harry Fell's Gen3 SHO with the lights all over it. IIRC, he was a fire dept guy too, though I can't recall what area of the country he was from. I wanna say New England somewheres.

The lights look good, by the way. Looks like an Emerald Green, right? I kept imagining it was a Moonlight Blue, because that would just be sooooo sexy....
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...which does nothing for the bone-jarring chatter when you clutch out in reverse.

Just sayin'.
tru i just cut that letter out of the shift pattern

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midnight blue is what i would love it to be maybe the next on.

As far as reverse tis was nick car 1993mtxsho 1993MTXSHO
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Well guys here it is, I REALLY hate to do this, more then I can even express, but tough times call for desperate measures, and that means my beloved 94 must go (and I DO want her back one day, so by all means feel free to keep my contact info)

I'm going to start off by saying the pictures of this car are terrible and don't do it justice, I had to take them in the freezing cold and with the car not as clean as it should be. I'll get some better ones up if it ever stops snowing here.

TRADES are possible if you happen to have a 1995 Taurus SE, 92-95 SLO’s work too and I’ve always wanted a V8 SHO, so that’s not out of the question either, but I'll keep an open mind so let me know what you've got (something cheaper than my car, the reason I’m selling is to pay bills).

For starters, this car is in exceptional condition with NO RUST, all the brake lines, fuel lines, drip rails etc. are VERY clean, and any little spot that looked like it needed some coating, as well as all the hard lines, got undercoated while the car was on a lift to prevent future rust. You will be VERY hard pressed to find a black interior 3.2L MTX SHO in this condition, with the maintenance records that follow this car (I have piles of receipts). Its run synthetic brake fluid its entire life, and has had ALL the fluids changed religiously, and is currently running Amsoil synthetic engine oil. There is a heck of a story behind this car, and it’s very well known in the tri state area. If you’re a serious buyer, the whole history will be told in person if you’re interested to hear, some of you probably remember what this car used to be.

The paint is excellent, probably an 8 out of 10 and the interior is a 9 out of 10. The car was garaged kept for a good portion of its life and now has 137k miles on the body with just about 107k on the engine. I have installed a very strong set of springs (I forget what the numbers were, but they were stiffer then most) and put on different sway bars that measure 20mm up front, and 23mm in the rear.

I have loved every one of the 5 sho’s I have owned, but I have to say this is certainly one of my favorites. I have taken care of every car I own as if it were my child, and I really do not want to sell this car, but I have 2 of them currently and I am looking to get into something different for at least part of the year (winter... this car is just too nice to use in salt. Please feel free to e-mail me with any questions you may have and I will get back to you ASAP. I am still daily driving this car, so the mileage will continue to go up until it’s sold. It also has an inspection sticker good until November of 2011.

The maintenance I can remember that was done within the past 6 months or 5k miles:

*3.2L engine swapped in

*60k performed very recently as preventative maintenance:
- *New front main seal
- *New rear main seal
- *All new cam seals
- *New crank sensor
- *New timing belt
- *Valve lash adjusted
- *New water pump
- *New valve cover gaskets (yes, the plug wells are bone dry)
- *Newer Plug wires installed (probably about 30k on them, they stock motocraft replacements)
- *New Spark plugs
- *New oil pan seal
-*Intake cleaned
-*Filters installed to keep the intake clean for a long time (can be seen in the pictures across the valve cover crank case vent tube)

*NEW ROD BEARINGS, yes they have been changed, nothing was wrong, the engine wasn't knocking or any nasty stuff like that, just preventative

*All brake fluid has been flushed and replaced with Prestone synthetic fluid
*All power steering fluid has been flushed and replaced with Castrol ATF
*MTX trans has been pulled apart, cleaned, had the diff WELDED and was then refilled with Castrol ATF. It is the best shifting mtx sho transmission I have ever felt (much better than my other SHO) in all my years in the sho game. Believe me when I say it, it is a very nice transmission and I hate to get rid of the car because of it. I also put a drain plug in it when I had it all apart, so you can continue the maintenance on her. It was welded by a friend of a friend who works at 3 mile island (no jokes please haha), this guy is GOOD, you won’t find better welds anywhere else on the planet.

*New Heater Core
*Blend door motor taken apart and greased
*New Clutch release cable
*New Front brake rotors and pads
*New sunroof seal (now obsolete through Ford, and NOT cheap)
*All coolant has been flushed and replaced
*New REV B Throw out bearing
*Rear Monroe Sensa-Trac struts installed, mileage on them was unknown, they were however still very strong
*4 Wheel alignment with brand new (installed at 135,500) Z rated 225/50VR16 BFGoodrich Traction T/A’s (not cheap tires folks) (all this being said, take a car that just had front suspension work, don’t get it aligned for 1500 miles, and you’ll wear the inner edges of your new tires like they had 20000 miles on them. So really only 2 of these things are new)
*Newer low mileage strut mounts and brand new strut bearings
*New alternator (yes I have done a gen 1 alternator conversion on this car… and for those of you who don’t know, gen 1 alternators take less hp to spin)
*Pair of New straight through turbo Mufflers (yes, this car has a nice rumble)
*Set of snow tires mounted on SHO wheels will be included as well. I have never used them on this car, they were for one of my old atx sho’s that was quite the beater, so I didn’t care so much about salt, but I have no use for them anymore so if you would like them I will include them with the car. The one pair has about 95% tread remaining (goodyear ultra grips), and the other has about 40% remaining, Bridgestone Blizzaks).

MODS:
*Stage 1 SHOSHOP Jr. High revs clutch
*Welded Diff done by a professional (to prevent the infamous ejected diff pin)
*Welded subframe to prevent a broken subframe
*96 front brake upgrade with ceramic pads
*Gen 1 vented rear brake upgrade with brembo rotors and hawk pads
*Cup style Aluminum subframe bushings
*Stainless steel braded brake lines
*Under drive pulleys
*Ported intake runners (I have a set of even further ported runners that I MIGHT include with the car if interested)
*Gasket matched ported heads
*Big Bore 40mm Secondary Butterfly’s
*A/C delete (could work again with new lines and compressor)
*K&N Drop in air filter
*Aftermarket high flow y-pipe
*Dynomax catback
*22% Window tint
*Alpine headunit (I have a Memphis amp and a 2000 watt competition lanzar 15” sub as well, but this will not be included with the car, it will be extra if you want to keep it, but I am willing to sell it with the car for an extra cost.)
*Black interior swap – this interior in VERY nice shape, it is full leather and has been VERY well maintained (I polish it constantly). It has the updated 93 center console, and I know you guys know how hard they are to find.

There ARE more things I replaced and redone, but I have done so much to this car this is really all I can remember right now that was recent

The taillights are lightly tinted, and the headlights/sidemarkes have a smoked type look to them without effecting light output and it was very very time consuming to do this (I'll explain in person how it was done)

Now the bad as some of you may remember: A few thousand miles ago the converters went bad, and some got sucked up into the cylinders, I immediately noticed because the cats started to make noise. I had the engine flushed 3 times, and was told to put in a Rislone Engine restore oil additive. Since this, I have had zero problems with the car and the compression on every cylinder reads 210 PSI to this day (I am willing to run a compression test on site if you would like). The car still pulls VERY hard and is very fast, so I do not believe there is any crazy engine damage or anything. The car also needs a transmission mount, as it is starting to tear, and it shakes the car in reverse when you back up on occasion. I have one that goes with the car to replace it with, I just haven’t gotten the time to change it. It doesn’t affect the car in forward gears at all, so it was never a huge concern for me as I really never back the car up. I am going to try to get this done if I get a halfway decent day. Anyway I rambled enough, any questions, just ask

$4800 is what I want, but I am negotiable depending on what you take. For example, decide you don't want the extra set of wheel/snow's. Or you want to bring your own wheel/tire combo to throw on and let me keep the set on it; we might be able to work something out.

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so far i have replaced both mounts with sho shop reinforced mounts ,changed the trans mount, change the trans that had broken bolt inserts, changed back to a stock clutch pressure plate ( had junior revs) or what have you .... had the flywheel cut / ground and put all of the limiters it had none. and i could go on and on ....but that is for another thread AND STILL i still dont have reverse......but as my gang of fellow sho owners say as we scratch out heads "it just needs a trans mount........."

oh and if any ones interested i payed 4500 cash and this is my only DD

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oh oh and clutch cable but still it would be nice to go in reverse ...... i think its been a wile.
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I don't know which is worse...

The "occasional" inability to use reverse, or the "very little" rust spots that are covered in "undercoating".

By "very little", I mean significant number. And by undercoating, I mean Black RTV.

Yes, there are smears of Black RTV all over the chassis. On the door frame, around the trunk edge... and those are just the spots we've found so far.

The car isn't a complete shit show, but it was definitely not as described in that ad, not even close.

And no way in **** was it a $4500 SHO.

Oh, and Nick, we recently found your alternator harness repair. Fire Marshall Bill would like to show you something...
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A thread is more easily read than the contents of said thread highlighted, cut and pasted into a new thread with no easily readable way of discerning post from post.

Not trying to give you balls, but most will see the mess above and simply move on instead of trying to figure out what is pasted, where it starts, who psted what part, and in what order.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Than answer is 7.

 

[Vnuk1]

Wtf....

 

[digeronimo34]

ok i will start another

 

[nothingtoseehere]

Than answer is 7.

No, the answer is 42

 

[1993MTXSHO]

Well I'll start with saying that I disclosed the fact that there was a known problem with reverse. I also never said the 17+ year old 130k+ mile car that used to be a race car mind you (told you that as well) was perfect. I was not hiding anything, (you even agreed I was straight up honest) when we found out the trans mount was not broken. I beat the **** out of the car on the test drive, so it was pretty obvious had nothing to hide. I gave that info based on what I was told here, and I'm sure I can even find the thread if need be. Also of the $4500 I refunded $300 out of good faith because it ended up not being what we thought it was (according to you, I have no proof you were telling the truth) and there was also a contract in which you brought to me, saying it was sold AS-IS in which you wanted notarized and signed, which we did. You also got a very nice set of wheels and snow tires with the sale as well. This price also included me holding the car for you and you making payments on it, if you took it straight up right off the bat, I may have let it go for less. So the car itself did not cost you $4500.

$4500-$300 cash refunded - $300 set of wheels/tires = $3900

I had no reason to refund any money, so I think that was a pretty nice gesture on my part. I also found someone to help you out with the car. I spent countless hours trying to help you out, found you a trans, got you contacts, talked to the contacts for you since I knew more about sho's, and went way above and beyond what any seller would do. Again, you said yourself I could have told you to go to **** and not given you a thing.

As far as all the money spent, much of it did not have to be spent, that was your choice to do things such as spend $90 on a perfect hood alignment. You also did not have to buy extreme performance engine mounts, I can go on with this but you get my point. The ball joints were tight, there was nothing wrong with them when I sold the car, boots were torn yes, but there was no play in them at all, and there was plenty of grease pressed into them.

Also as far as the alternator, that was also repaired as per instructions from a member here and worked just fine (can probably find that thread too).

But posting up something like this is a slap in the face to someone who has been trying to help out when nothing had to be done. I only owned the car for about a year, so I couldn't possibly know every last detail about the car and you have to expect things to be wrong with a car of this age.

 

[yamahaSHO]

No, the answer is 42

You're right, I forgot to carry the 35.

 

[digeronimo34]

sure things go wrong with cars all the time and thank you for your help the members that have been helping me since day one all know that you helped me and gave me three hundred for another trans. and i thank you for that . but when we had talked about the condition of the car and the "problem" that it had you told me that it was only problem that it had was a bad mount and that it was a recent thing that you did not have the time to do as of yet. 48 hours after i picked up the car i had it at a trans place to have a new mount put in the guy pulls the wheel off shows the damage and tells me that it is unsafe to drive. i dropped 300 more to have the trans case re drilled and taped and it was still moving all over the place and i sent you pictures of the damage and went to the person that you sent me to and he said the same thing ...

and to the hood issue it was so far out of alignment that you almost needed a pry bar to get it open and closed sorry some of us need to get in there to do work and i did not pay anything for that

as far as payment i gave you 3500 cash you retained the car and tittle and i payed you the 1000 a week and a half latter. the snow tires you threw in i could have cared less they are still behind my shed with two different type of tires and mixed Canada and ittal rims you can have them back for the price you quoted above if you wish.

your rust free car is a joke.... and as some one who was buying the car there are only so many things that one can check and if you rememberer i did not have all that much time to check things out because we had to meet your father so he could do the paper work if i wanted to get the car. I went on your add and the multipliable conversations we had before i drive 200+ to see the car. plus you seamed like a honest person. ..... book by its cover and all that .....

 

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sure things go wrong with cars all the time and thank you for your help the members that have been helping me since day one all know that you helped me and gave me three hundred for another trans. and i thank you for that . but when we had talked about the condition of the car and the "problem" that it had you told me that it was only problem that it had was a bad mount and that it was a recent thing that you did not have the time to do as of yet. 48 hours after i picked up the car i had it at a trans place to have a new mount put in the guy pulls the wheel off shows the damage and tells me that it is unsafe to drive. i dropped 300 more to have the trans case re drilled and taped and it was still moving all over the place and i sent you pictures of the damage and went to the person that you sent me to and he said the same thing ...

and to the hood issue it was so far out of alignment that you almost needed a pry bar to get it open and closed sorry some of us need to get in there to do work and i did not pay anything for that

as far as payment i gave you 3500 cash you retained the car and tittle and i payed you the 1000 a week and a half latter. the snow tires you threw in i could have cared less they are still behind my shed with two different type of tires and mixed Canada and ittal rims you can have them back for the price you quoted above if you wish.

your rust free car is a joke.... and as some one who was buying the car there are only so many things that one can check and if you rememberer i did not have all that much time to check things out because we had to meet your father so he could do the paper work if i wanted to get the car. I went on your add and the multipliable conversations we had before i drive 200+ to see the car. plus you seamed like a honest person. ..... book by its cover and all that .....

After reading that you say you paid nothing for the hood, and in a pervious conversation were trying to get $90 out of me for a hood alignment you paid for, I have lost all my trust in you. The things you and your friends claim I said, are not true and you know it, rtv for undercoat? That's laughable at best, you know as well as I do there is spray on undercoat all over the underbody of that car. I'm done with these threads and will not be offering help anymore because I now believe nothing you're saying. If the situation was not right for you, you should not have bought the car plain and simple.

 

[SHOtime2511]

Sounds like a pile of shit for $4500.
That being said you bought it,your stuck with it.

 

[nothingtoseehere]

Sounds like a pile of shit for $4200.
That being said you bought it,your stuck with it.

Fixed. I wouldn't count the mismatched snow tires on mismatched slicers as price off. But yeah.

 

[SHOmethewayhome]

this sounds like a screwed up deal all around.

 

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ITT: SHOForum members f***ing other SHOForum members, and then trying to act like it's the buyer's fault.

There's always one...

 

[1993MTXSHO]

Fixed. I wouldn't count the mismatched snow tires on mismatched slicers as price off. But yeah.

Had he said he didn't want them included he would have had money off the deal, so they most definitely have value.

ITT: SHOForum members f***ing other SHOForum members, and then trying to act like it's the buyer's fault.

There's always one...

I never tried to screw anyone, nor did I say it was all his fault (hence the refund), everything I knew about the car was disclosed. I never knew anything about a cracked trans (hence me beating the **** out of the car on the test drive for him) and I never knew anything about rust, that was one of the cleaner north east sho's I've seen, I wan't to see pictures of the "rot" because there were no major rot issues on that car that I was aware of.