The_Detroit_SHO
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Whats better??
Tokico or Koni??
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NJshofear
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Koni no doubt in my mind...i love them.
(puts nomex on)
(puts nomex on)
You have the "real" Koni's right? Because about 2yrs ago when I did my suspension all I could find were Koni inserts which I see as not being a "real" strut/shock b/c you have to modify them to work. If they do sell them I was badly informed from the shop that did my suspension.
94shoboy
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jeremy:: sweet burnout pic man, shrik down the sig though, its too big.
eddie (how do you spell that for future reference? not sure if you spell it with one d or two)they only sell inserts for the sho, not the full housing, they are the same thing though. the housings we re-us are the same thing that koni slaps around the insert and sells to everyone else, its not a lower quality or anything.
detroit sho:: if you want all out handling, get the konis. the tokico is a compromise between stock and koni, its good for cornering, but not as stiff as the konis. IMO konis are god. incredible pieces and the adjustablity is great
eddie (how do you spell that for future reference? not sure if you spell it with one d or two)they only sell inserts for the sho, not the full housing, they are the same thing though. the housings we re-us are the same thing that koni slaps around the insert and sells to everyone else, its not a lower quality or anything.
detroit sho:: if you want all out handling, get the konis. the tokico is a compromise between stock and koni, its good for cornering, but not as stiff as the konis. IMO konis are god. incredible pieces and the adjustablity is great
Which housing is that you buy? Is it from Koni themselves or another company seperate from where you can buy the inserts? Thats the only thing that kept me from installing Koni's when my SHO was dropped now after 2yrs I realize my mistake, little by little these GR2's are slowly not keeping up with my spring rate like they used to. BTW its actually Edien but most ppl that know call me Eddie.
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PROPHET
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what about KyBs much cheaper? thumbs_u
Thats what I have but after two years you can feel the price difference
, now I know I shouldve went with Koni but I was just badly informed back then when I did my suspension. Now I really want to get into it with sways bars, sfc's, all new bushings, and h-brace, lol and I think my SHO handles now cant wait.gdsqdcr
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Koni! KONI!! ...
Without a doubt, Koni gives a better handling package. I have driven cars with Tokicos, and they are fun to drive, but the flexibility of the Koni's are worth it. When I am driving down the highway or even in the city, set them on the soft setting and you good to go. When it is time to play hard, set them to firm and you can jump on the corner of the car, and it goes down 1/2 inch MAX! ..
Anthony
Without a doubt, Koni gives a better handling package. I have driven cars with Tokicos, and they are fun to drive, but the flexibility of the Koni's are worth it. When I am driving down the highway or even in the city, set them on the soft setting and you good to go. When it is time to play hard, set them to firm and you can jump on the corner of the car, and it goes down 1/2 inch MAX! ..
Anthony
The Koni's reuire you to slice open the old strut housings, gut them, and put the new insert in. Takes time, is messy, but for not much more than the Tokikos you get ajustability, primarily in rebound but also in compression (only one ajustment, has an effect on both, but mostly rebound).
Even if all you use the ajustment feature for is to slowly turn the strut up every year or so to copensate for wear, its worth it IMHO.
I went with Konis all around, if I had to do it again I would have went with Konis front and Tokikos rear - very hard to adjust the rears and you don't need rear adjustability very much for autocrossing. Plus, it was a pain to track down the longer rear housings used in the 89 to 93 cars to use in my 1995. Do not use the 94/95 housings and Koni inserts for that model - strut travel is reduced too much.
BTW, TCE will install Konis into housings for about $50 each, if you want to pay to have *** done.
zak
Even if all you use the ajustment feature for is to slowly turn the strut up every year or so to copensate for wear, its worth it IMHO.
I went with Konis all around, if I had to do it again I would have went with Konis front and Tokikos rear - very hard to adjust the rears and you don't need rear adjustability very much for autocrossing. Plus, it was a pain to track down the longer rear housings used in the 89 to 93 cars to use in my 1995. Do not use the 94/95 housings and Koni inserts for that model - strut travel is reduced too much.
BTW, TCE will install Konis into housings for about $50 each, if you want to pay to have *** done.
zak
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So could I use the current housing from my KYB GR2's? Or do I need go out and buy cheap stock housing gut those? I'm still lost on how splicing the housing and then putting it back together reassure quality? Would it all depend on the install from the specific shop which performs this?
edogg23
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Go with the Koni's I have them and I love them. Edien as far as using your housing goes I'm not positive that you can use your current housing but I don't see why not. If the housing fits your car Im sure the insert will fit into it.
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The_Detroit_SHO
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What up ya'll?? Thanks for the input... i think you made my decision that much easier!! Just so i know beforehand exactly how much are koni's? and tokicos??
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luigisho
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Last I checked koni were around $500 give or take a few bucks. Tokico were $50-60 less if I remember correctly. I haven't seen if tokico changed their prices since the fronts became available again.
ryancutler
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Hmm... I'm getting a used eibach/tokico setup for about $300, should I get two koni's for up front? I just don't like the idea of having to pretty much MAKE the strut
*grrrr*
luigisho
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Edien, check out the Koni web site. There is a national sales office that may be able to answer the gr2 housing question. I think Fred has talked to them before. Then give them a hard time about having to pay top dollar and still have to make our own strut!
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ret
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Hrm... exactly what kind of problems will be caused by this? I've got a '94 and have allready arranged to have koni's done all the way around while I am on vacation starting tuesday. Is it the kind of thing I'm going to notice in a car that is mostly driven to and from work and given a little **** on the way? It's too late to do anything about it now anyway, but I'd like to at least know what to expect when I get my car back.
thanks
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