Remote Mount Turbo

[heath_06p]

Squires Turbo Systems has developed the remote mount turbo, and recived a GM product of the year award for it. What do you guys think about the remote mount turbo and its, possibilities for the SHO? To me it sounds like it could be the magic that we are all lookin for.

 

[Youjustgotbeatbyasho]

It looks like a kick *** system, but for the price, jezus man...thats an arm and a leg for some people (like me)...but I wouldnt mind it one bit to be a donor car

 

[stevemainian]

It looks like a kick *** system, but for the price, jezus man...thats an arm and a leg for some people (like me)...but I wouldnt mind it one bit to be a donor car

What are you talking about?

Its actually cheaper. You dont have to worry about intercooling.

The only way to get one of these on a SHO is to fabricate all of it yourself. They dont have a kit for it yet.

 

[adidas_kn]

Only thing that worries me is all the custom tuning needed to get the compressed air back to the SHO intake manifold. Not much room under the car as it is. Might have to run it next to the exhaust pipe itself. It is an awesome idea though. Get rid of that raspy noise in boosted SHO's really well.
Thats a muffler I'd like to have.


Later
"J"

 

[SonicRiot]

I like that... "No engine modifications needed." Provided your bottom end is stout and the headgasket can take the boost!


It's a cool system, but I can't see it putting up huge specific output numbers in comparison to a traditional turbo setup.

And It is possible to Turbo for under $4000. Just don't buy a kit...

 

[stevemainian]

I like that... "No engine modifications needed." Provided your bottom end is stout and the headgasket can take the boost!


It's a cool system, but I can't see it putting up huge specific output numbers in comparison to a traditional turbo setup.

And It is possible to Turbo for under $4000. Just don't buy a kit...

Well yea you could probably turbo it for less, but for all the tranny work and other "little" things youll need, it will probably put you past the 4000 mark.

 

[SonicRiot]

If you mount this to your car, you STILL need those upgrades. The MTX-IV transaxle gets hairy at 300 LBS-FT of torque. If this thing wont bring your SHO near that, it sure as **** isn't worth $4000!!!

Though it's an innovative setup, how does a turbo work efficiently off of cooled down exhaust gasses? Turbos work on heat AND airflow.

 

[heath_06p]

more on air flow than heat, it would prolly be easier to make a kit for your self than a conventional turbo set up, plus there is not a whole lot of room under the SHO hood for a conventional set up. How does their patent on that system work? What do they have patented on it, just the whold haveing the turbo outside the engine bay? Or could you make one for your self if you wanted?

 

[stangracr67]

I wouldn't mind having about 7-8 psi on my SHO. From what i have read on this site a fairly stock sho should be able to handle up to 9 psi. right? I think that would be pretty easy to do-it-yourself. the only tricky part would be the oil supply. was thinking about cutting out my spare tire well and welding in sheet metal to make plenty of room for the turbo. If a turbo works on heat why do they use intercoolers?

 

[SASHO91]

intercoolers cool the intake down. since compressed air is hot, it is not the best for performance. also, with colder intake charge there is less chance of detonation.
and of course some other small things as well.... plus it looks bad a$$!!!!
as for the acutal turbo/ heat thing, im alittle rusty on that.. there is a thread around here about that though....

 

[shoteen95]

and like i suggested on the last STS thread, perhaps it would be possible to wrap your exhaust in high temp thermosleeve or something similiar, as an insulator..so the exhaust gases would stay hotter as they reach the turbo :corn:

 

[Patrick Norris]

I was talking with a guy from turbosaturns.net a couple of weeks ago. He was going to go with a remote turbo setup custom built. You might try checking out their forums. They have a few guys with turbo setups on Saturns. Might answer some of your questions.

 

[SHOguy 92]

If you mount this to your car, you STILL need those upgrades. The MTX-IV transaxle gets hairy at 300 LBS-FT of torque. If this thing wont bring your SHO near that, it sure as **** isn't worth $4000!!!

Though it's an innovative setup, how does a turbo work efficiently off of cooled down exhaust gasses? Turbos work on heat AND airflow.

Have you seen dyno charts from LS1 cars with the system? I wouldn't say what it won't do if you haven't. There is a guy on LS1.com with a 5.3L vortec Z71 chevy bone stock besides that turbo kit and its pushing 12psi he ran 12.8 at 113mph! I would not talk crap about the kit It seems to work....

 

[SonicRiot]

Fro that amount of money, I hope his LS1 will run low 13-high 12's!

There are plently of N/A mods that will get an LS1 into those numbers.

I'm not doubting what the system can do, I just think that $4000 is a lot to pay for 6-8 PSi. A T03 ripped off of an Audi/VW will put out more boost and those things can be had for under $100 if you know where to look.

 

[SuperG]

I wonder if you wouldn't change the car to a single outlet exhaust, then use the other side to run pipe back to the intake?

 

[FuzzyFish]

Have someone around here running one on their ls1 camero. Lets just say the 500rwhp with no intercooling, and tuning only pretty much proves the setup.

 

[heath_06p]

so is it illegal to custom fab one for yourself?

 

[Dan H]

Nothing wrong with fabbing one up for yourself. Might be illegal to produce similar kits for sale however. If you don't profit from it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[munkee]

Let me preface this (like I have on the last 20 posts on this subject) by saying that yes this kit works, quite well even. I'm not in the least bit about to talk crap about the system. It's just not ideal for an sho. You don't spend any less on an STS setup than you would a conventional kit. Expect pricing on my low boost kit to be somewhere under 3000. That's for the Turbo, Wastegate, BOV, MAF, Injectors, Boost controller, Tweecer, Fuel pump, y-pipe, charge pipe, Vaccuum and oil lines, and all connectors. Basically a bolt on kit. There's nothing on that list that you won't need for a remote mount setup. You will need more piping though. Also, if your going to design your own remote mount kit, your going to have to know your stuff when it comes time to choose the turbo sizing. YES, turbo's work most efficiently on hot gas. A turbo that would work just fine in the engine compartment would be really sluggish if you put it back at the muffler. That's because as the exhaust gas cools down it contracts and has less mass to spin the turbine with. The temperature drops approximately 600 degrees from the headers to the tailpipe. Anyways, there is still plenty of room in the engine bay for a turbo, and by the sounds of it, there should be two or three good kits available soon for the sho.

 

[adidas_kn]

Please hurry your kit up Munkee. As I will have the cheese to throw down for one soon(June or July). After I get my new cryo'ed, shimmed, quaifed SS/Bizzy tranny I will be doing a ported set of heads and full gasket set over haul with stage one cams. Then the fun of boost comes.

PM me whith more info on your kit.

Later
"J"