plug-n-play MAF

[matasho]

so i was wondering what MAFs are a plug and play for the sho? Not just stock ford MAFs but aftermarket also.

A good example is the the 73mm C&L is a plug and play. And the 77mm ProM that i used to have was also a plug and play.

Thanks in advance
Mike

 

[BlackonBlack89]

The pro-m MAF are they are usally 75 or 80mm in size

 

[stangeater]

Stock 55mm maf is plug-n-play. Other than that, you need to have a chip burned for the ecu, other wise you'll be running lean.

 

[matasho]

Stock 55mm maf is plug-n-play. Other than that, you need to have a chip burned for the ecu, other wise you'll be running lean.

what are you running for a maf with that zex kit? and do you have any kind of chip?

 

[Phoenix]

so i was wondering what MAFs are a plug and play for the sho? Not just stock ford MAFs but aftermarket also.

A good example is the the 73mm C&L is a plug and play. And the 77mm ProM that i used to have was also a plug and play.

Thanks in advance
Mike

They all require a tune except:

-Shosource's ones (Pro-m?)
-C&L plug and play are hit or miss , when its a miss they often runs lean.
-Some Pro-Ms

 

[stangeater]

what are you running for a maf with that zex kit? and do you have any kind of chip?

No chip, not necessary. The ZEX kit actually does all the tune by itself. It regulates the fuel pressure on it's own. Thanks for reminding me though, I just sold the kit, and have to change my sig.

 

[hawkeye18]

I doubt that very, very, very much. You cannot adequately tune a car with fuel pressure alone. The only truly P&P MAF for the SHO is the Pro-M (née Pro-Flow), which has 73, 75, 77, 85, 95 etc. mm units. I have one of the old pro-flow 73s (from back when they were still pro-flow) on my car and it's almost perfect; my KAMRFs are pretty near 1. Is it more HP? ehhhhhhhhh... not really. But it'll come in handy when I finally start putting more mods on the motor, and I got it at such a steal ($45!) that it was impossible to pass up.

 

[kconnor]

My 1993 ATX would hunt at idle with the C&L 73mm MAF until I mounted it right next to the throttle body and I mean nuts to butts, as close as it could possibly get. According to the C&L website the 73mm was dyno tested and tuned using a 1993 ATX. We also tried it on my son’s 1995 ATX and the car would not idle at all let alone run. That’s my experience with the C&L.

 

[luigisho]

The pro-m MAF are they are usally 75 or 80mm in size

They used to sell a sweet looking 77 with a velocity stack flare at the intake side with an integrated cone filter. The newer designs are a more straight through design.

Couldn't find one with the filter off but here is what they looked like http://forums.corral.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=25116

 

[matasho]

ok so maybe i shouldnt say "plug n play". i should have said what mafs can i put on and plug in and the car will run with out any tuner. i know the car is prolly running lean and some cars wont even run with some mafs. i was just curious what mafs people have with no tune that run "ok".

 

[LOUDSHO92]

We do have a plug-n-play MAF here: SHO Source

 

[shonutt]

:woo-hoo:if ya want one that works ok .. the 70 mm cobra maf ... from a 93 works fine for me been using one for 4 years now no probolems .. feels good on the upper end i know there have been a few others on here that have used them ... with no probolems .. how ever im sure f i hade a real tune it would work even better .. but like i said it worked great for me as is ... ive been i balling the sho source one for a while .. but as for now im satisfied with this one as it was pretty cheap and a good mod to my liking .. my opinion if you cane spare the extra bucks .. go to sho source .. or if not try and see if you can score a cheap cobra 70 mm maf .. from the junk yard .. otr parts store .. i paid like $90 for mine

 

[Phoenix]

For all the guys who said that it "RAN" ok , so it should be OK...

NO

Oh but it pulls harder...

NO

If you want to claim that a maf runs good , it needs to be checked with a wideband. Its not because it works , that makes it OK... You could be running lean without knowing it for years. And is it a good thing? Not really.

 

[randy'sho]

yeah but wouldn't your car give you a lean code if you were running dangerously lean? i ran a 70mm cobra maf for ever in my 93 before i had it tuned, and i couldn't tell a difference before and after the tune! car seemed to like it! just my experience!

 

[yamahaSHO]

In most cases, a MAF swap is pointless. If you have a REAL reason for something that can meter larger amounts of air, then it's pretty much needed.

 

[RJ-92]

Any MAF for a 89?-95 Mustang GT with the stock 19lb/hr injectors has the same MAF curve as the SHO does.

 

[stangeater]

In most cases, a MAF swap is pointless. If you have a REAL reason for something that can meter larger amounts of air, then it's pretty much needed.

If you have this attitude, then all "small" mods are pointless. Yes, changing the MAF alone doesn't make noticeable gains, but changing the MAF, Getting BBB's, EH intake, larger injectors, a Y pipe, and a tune will make a very noticable difference. The fact is, that when you put all these small mods together, it does make a difference. Most sho enthusiasts can't afford to go out and supercharge their sho's all at once, so they keep adding these small mods that you call "pointless" until it does add up to a nice power increase.

Back to the OP...........I ran a 70mm MAF from a cobra on one of my other SHO's, and really liked it. I believe I got it on Ebay for $55. I also, had a superchip burned for it though.........:wave:

 

[randy'sho]

If you have this attitude, then all "small" mods are pointless. Yes, changing the MAF alone doesn't make noticeable gains, but changing the MAF, Getting BBB's, EH intake, larger injectors, a Y pipe, and a tune will make a very noticable difference. The fact is, that when you put all these small mods together, it does make a difference. Most sho enthusiasts can't afford to go out and supercharge their sho's all at once, so they keep adding these small mods that you call "pointless" until it does add up to a nice power increase.

Back to the OP...........I ran a 70mm MAF from a cobra on one of my other SHO's, and really liked it. I believe I got it on Ebay for $55. I also, had a superchip burned for it though.........:wave:

:thankyou:
this was perfectly said......you hit the nail on the head! I was very happy with my 70mm with and without my LPM! my car never ran lean that I know of....worked for me!

 

[yamahaSHO]

If you have this attitude, then all "small" mods are pointless. Yes, changing the MAF alone doesn't make noticeable gains, but changing the MAF, Getting BBB's, EH intake, larger injectors, a Y pipe, and a tune will make a very noticable difference. The fact is, that when you put all these small mods together, it does make a difference. Most sho enthusiasts can't afford to go out and supercharge their sho's all at once, so they keep adding these small mods that you call "pointless" until it does add up to a nice power increase.

Back to the OP...........I ran a 70mm MAF from a cobra on one of my other SHO's, and really liked it. I believe I got it on Ebay for $55. I also, had a superchip burned for it though.........:wave:

I guess you didn't pay attention to the italics in my post, however, BBB's, EH and a y-pipe do not max out the stock MAF. Larger injectors alone have absolutly NOTHING to do with the MAF (definintely does not warrant a larger one). A 'tune' is REQUIRED with a larger MAF and is very useful with even a STOCK MAF.

It's not an attitude, it's "learned by experience". If you're coming here for advice, I'm giving you advice that could save you money for the negligible gain. If someone is planning on boosting, then these mods are just STEPS that need to be taken. If someone can't upgrade all at once, that is a viable way of getting there.

Before you start maxing out your MAF (or putting it really close), you can extract the same power from the stock MAF as any other MAF that is 'tuned'. I can also tell you, a stock SHO with a great tune (via some device such as the TwEECer) is generally FASTER than BBB, EH, larger MAF cars without a good tune.

It's your car, spend you money how you'd like. If you like to say you have mods just to say it, then do it. I made the same power with the 55mm MAF with cams, EH, BBB's, and exhaust as I did with my later upgraded 80mm. I'm only speaking facts, just like it's fact that the SHO motor wasn't detuned to be slower than the Mustang....

 

[yamahaSHO]

:thankyou:
this was perfectly said......you hit the nail on the head! I was very happy with my 70mm with and without my LPM! my car never ran lean that I know of....worked for me!

There's being happy, and actually having proof that it's working BETTER. All things being equal, tune a stock car and take another car with a 70mm MAF (tuned) and they'd be the same.

WE can't change that.