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I thought all liquids could compress? I mean, it would take millions and millions of PSi but it could be done.. you just compress it into a solid. Isn't that how diamonds are made?
Well.. diamonds don't start out as liquid... but yes, pressure is the main idea.. over thousands or millions of years.
 

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Well.. diamonds don't start out as liquid... but yes, pressure is the main idea.. over thousands or millions of years.

I thought it started out as plants/animals, then they die and turn into oily goop, which eventually turns into coal, which eventually turns into diamonds? Idunno, I never really payed that much attention to the process... ADD and geology are really on incompatible time-frames.
 

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I just read that entire thread you linked to. HOLY COW BATMAN. He has good info, just bad tech knowledge to understand what he is reading. I showed it to a tech at our shop. He just wrote on his tool box "brakes don't stop the car, tires do" and everybody is laughing at it now!!!

Wow, he seriously needs to go back to HS science classes. I have a good general concept on braking, I always forget about the change of motion to heat. But then again, I only drive my car on the road and not on the track so heat build up is not as big of a deal

I liked this quote by bcware too

bcware said:
i'm working on a slotted pizza pan. i found that by using a sprayer to keep the pizza pan coated in fresh grease i can keep temperatures down and dramatically reduce unsprung weight. the grease heats up and flies out through the channels.
 
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I have not read the thread cited, but whoever said brakes do not stop the car, tires do, is correct.

Brakes (at least the kind that nearly every automobile in existence use) can no more stop a car than they can propel a car. What brakes CAN do, is slow the rotation of the wheel/tire assembly. Imagine you were driving your 60mph and drove onto a very low-friction surface. You apply the brakes, but your car continues moving at 60mph. Your wheel/tire assembly however has stopped rotating, because of the application of the brakes. While it may sound obvious, without the tire/ground interface, there is no way for the brakes to have any effect on the energy of the car.
 

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I have not read the thread cited, but whoever said brakes do not stop the car, tires do, is correct.

Brakes (at least the kind that nearly every automobile in existence use) can no more stop a car than they can propel a car. What brakes CAN do, is slow the rotation of the wheel/tire assembly. Imagine you were driving your 60mph and drove onto a very low-friction surface. You apply the brakes, but your car continues moving at 60mph. Your wheel/tire assembly however has stopped rotating, because of the application of the brakes. While it may sound obvious, without the tire/ground interface, there is no way for the brakes to have any effect on the energy of the car.

Go read the thread, you know what I am getting at then, he made it sound like there is no need for brakes that tires will do it even with out brakes. Its just funny how the bcware puts together knowledge on this topic.

And yes its a community effort to stop a car...Will just wheels/tires stop your car? Eventually Yes(because of friction and gravity). Brakes speed up that process (adding more friction). Without one or the other you'd be screwed. Without brakes you'd be doing this :rofl: longer. And without tires, well you wouldn't' need brakes because you wouldn't be going anywhere either.

:bestpost: Thank you yamahaSHO!!
 

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Go read the thread, you know what I am getting at then, he made it sound like there is no need for brakes that tires will do it even with out brakes. !!

You DONT need brakes...sheesh.

Just turn slightly to the right...and snap the wheel back to the left...just remember...steer TOWARDS the skid and hope there's no one next to you....cause you'll be looking straight at them when yer done IF you did it right.
 

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You DONT need brakes...sheesh.

Just turn slightly to the right...and snap the wheel back to the left...just remember...steer TOWARDS the skid and hope there's no one next to you....cause you'll be looking straight at them when yer done IF you did it right.

This.

Works well for jumping curbs in SHOs during an ice storm on a slight left hand turn. :nut:
 

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I have not read the thread cited, but whoever said brakes do not stop the car, tires do, is correct.

Brakes (at least the kind that nearly every automobile in existence use) can no more stop a car than they can propel a car. What brakes CAN do, is slow the rotation of the wheel/tire assembly. Imagine you were driving your 60mph and drove onto a very low-friction surface. You apply the brakes, but your car continues moving at 60mph. Your wheel/tire assembly however has stopped rotating, because of the application of the brakes. While it may sound obvious, without the tire/ground interface, there is no way for the brakes to have any effect on the energy of the car.

Like an icey road?? I think i get what you're saying!

As far as this thread goes lets be sure we haven't put our pads on sticky side up before we post! :rofl: you may end up sore in all the wrong places.....figuritivly speaking.

finally, from what i remember, in regards to this thread, is'nt the only real difference in brake fluid the boiling point??? (DOT 4> DOT3??)
 

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is'nt the only real difference in brake fluid the boiling point??? (DOT 4> DOT3??)
DOT 4 is lighter in color, and is a great starting point for a mighty fine Italian/oil and vinegar salad dressing. Just dont forget the paprika.;)
 

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