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Eric VerValin

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He posted more stupid stuff again.. get back in there yamaha... lol

something about how he worked at Ford, Saturn, GM.. Etc... tell him its because he didnt know anything about working on cars.. :) And they all fired him.. he works at Jiffy **** now.. lol
 

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wow... the rotor's primary purpose isn't a heat sink? then what the f#%* is it supposed to be? lol... *******' looks?
 

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I thought the primary purpose of "wavy channels" was to keep brake dust from getting between the pads and rotors to promote better stopping and that cross drilling a rotor was to provide greater cooling...

he's also a ******* for using the word mechanical energy... kinetic energy is what he's talking about. I don't think a brake does a damn thing to stop potential energy when the car is already moving. when it isn't moving they do but that isn't what the discussion is about, but even then they keep potential energy from becoming kinetic energy.
 
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I thought the primary purpose of "wavy channels" was to keep brake dust from getting between the pads and rotors to promote better stopping and that cross drilling a rotor was to provide greater cooling...

That's funny, I always thought the purpose of the slots on the rotors was to make them incredibly loud at speed. Mine sound like a horde of crickets are riding with me.
 

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Haha... Sorry, I was at a SHO club meeting here in Colorado! I posted again. Pat and I had a funny discussion on this after I told him about this thread.

I'm not trying to be a ****... Just trying to set it straight and he keeps changing directions. I am surprised that nobody else has chimed in and told him that he is an are-tard. But then again, my understanding on brakes if 'poor'.
 
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Haha... Sorry, I was at a SHO club meeting here in Colorado! I posted again. Pat and I had a funny discussion on this after I told him about this thread.

I'm not trying to be a ****... Just trying to set it straight and he keeps changing directions. I am surprised that nobody else has chimed in and told him that he is an are-tard. But then again, my understanding on brakes if 'poor'.
speaking of SHO club meetings, are we(NEBSHO) gonna have a little get together before the end of the summer??

we should probably start planning now with the way things are with this fine group of people...
 

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I'm down... It doesn't have to be anything big. The Colorado SHO Club meets once a month at a restaurant. I want to have you guys over, but was hoping to have the basement done first.
 

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I'm game... I still need to find me a 3.2 to build up. My current one is leaking oil out the front main like no other. I can smell burnt oil crusing down the highway at 80mph. Its ****** about 1 qt every 400-600 miles. And I can't change my front main - or crank sensor for that matter - unless I swap in another crank. I'm runnin on borrowed time now. :nervous:

With that said, I'll ****** walk to Nebraska if we can get something going. :nut:
 
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Ha... Im down for something.. I do plan on getting out to the convention so lets not plan something around then! and jason, i solved the bog and backfire thing (i think you saw already, but i cant remember).
 

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brakes don't stop the car

Sorry, im just now reading that thread... I had to laugh really, really, really, really hard when i saw that.... Granted a good tire will aid in braking, i don't think there is going to be much braking without.. well, brakes...

EDIT:Ok, from what i got from that thread is this.. Brakes are pretty much pointless.. Other than helping tires.. And With that being said, my stock SHO brakes with really, really good tires will stop LONG before and outperform a cobra upgrade on decent tires. Cool, with that being said, ill just buy nice tires! ROFL.. I'm no expert, or even novice when it comes to brakes, but i do know his argument is a complete load. I do not believe that brakes are a "heat-sink". I could be wrong, but i thought a rotors efficiency was to dissipate heat as heat is what kills pads, boils fluid and warps rotors... If the rotors primary job was to absorb heat, we would not explore the world of vented and drilled rotors, or converting out fog lights to brake cooling dams.

As far as the converting energy. I also do not believe this as its not converting energy.. Its simply reducing kinetic energy. I don't see how it transfers energy to the tire considering its not doing work on the brakes and the brakes aren't doing work on the tire. Unless you consider by doing work to the brakes, the brakes do work to the tires. i just think doing work on the brakes does something to the KE.
 
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Warning!!! Here comes a long boring primer on brakes. Semantics here, but all kinetic energy breaks down to heat. This includes the stretching loads applies to your tires, when you apply the brakes. The majority of that energy is actually transmitted to a long heavy patch of asphalt, that comes directly into contact with the tire contact patch, as you roll. It is spread over such a large mass of pavement, as to be nearly immesurable. If however you were to place that pavement on a boat of some sort, and stop abruptly on the boat, the energy becomes more obvious. Again, this energy would radiate out in waves (pavement invisably compresses in much the same fasion) which still breaks down to heat, evenly disbursed through the body of water (hydraulic principal). While brake rotors, must pass their heat to the mass of air they are traveling through, pads by definition, have a more complex job. While every pad is unique, their strategy is always threefold. Pads force some of their heat into the rotor, some is carried away in the form of gas (we call it smoke, or odor), and some is carried off in heavy particulate (brake dust). Some in-escapable amount also makes it's way through the caliper and piston, to super heat the brake fluid. Nissans are particularly known for this, and do not seem to like a low grade fluid.
 
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OMG.. my brain is liquid..... that was mind boggling! (lol j/k.. but pretty good "primer" on brakes).

Liberty... is your engine finally toast in your genII?
 

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