Khumo, Sumitomo, Yokohama, or ?

[SHO Mojo]

All -

My 225/45x17 Pirelli SS7000's are shot...and I'm looking for replacements. Per TireRack's survey, Khumo, Sumitomo and Yokohama (AVS ES100) all have very good hi-po tires between $95 and $105 in my size. Anybody care to mention their favorites and/or experience with these tires? Is there another tire I should consider for under $150?

Thanks for any and all input!

Regards,

<small>[ January 21, 2003, 10:16 AM: Message edited by: SHO Mojo ]</small>

 

[twr]

Dunlop SP Sport 8000's - very nice tire (Summer only tire) I ran these on mine for about year. I put one road track and dozen quarter mile trips on them, they held up pretty well. Although the ride they deliver was a little harsh.
I'm now trying a set of Nitto 555 extremes. So far so good, handling feels about the same or better than the Dunlops. I went this route for a few reasons, 1 - The price was awsome - thanks shosig thumbs_u 2 - Dunlops weren't instock and I didn't feel like waiting and 3 - I was told the ride quality would be better, which it is - I can't tell if the quarter I just ran over was heads or tales up.

<small>[ January 21, 2003, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: twrsho ]</small>

 

[cRaZySHO.]

Falken also makes an excellent tire. Tire Rack doesn't carry them though. Whalen Tire does carry them. Look at either the Falken GRB or the less expensive Ziex502. Also their Azenzis is also a great tire, but not sure on price for those.

<small>[ January 21, 2003, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: crazySHO88 ]</small>

 

[ChrisR]

I have had great performance from kumho excta supra 712's. I liked them a lot.

 

[SHO92]

CrazySHO, do you know any more mail order wheel sites? The 2 brands that came up for the SHO on the whalen site were 2 that I'd never seen before. I'm always on the look out for a decent set of wheels, especially 6 spokes. I like the TSW Revo R, but they are so heavy, and I've only seen them on the TSW UK site, not the US one.

BTW... I have the Yoko ES100s in 225/50/16 mounted on my slicers and I like them a lot. One thing I noticed was how the side wall doesn't seem to bulge half as much as other tires I have had on the slicers in the same size.

 

[SHO_ROLLER]

I have a set of Dunlop SP Sport 5000's on my 15" baskets and they're GREAT!! I would highly recommend looking into a set of Dunlops.

Anthony

 

[Hubes]

i am satisified with my yoko's thumbs_u

 

[cRaZySHO.]

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<small>[ January 22, 2003, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: crazySHO88 ]</small>

 

[FAST4DR]

I currently have the Kuhmo Ecsta 712's in 235/45-17. Before them I had the Summitomo HTRZII's in the same size.

I like the Summitomo's better. Much stickier, but they only lasted me around 10,000 miles. I would say with average driving you could probably get 20,000 out of them.

The Kuhmo are just as good a tire except they give up a little in ultimate grip to the Summitomo's. They were brand new when I went to the convention and I made 14 passes at the track and did the Summit point event and I could hardly see a difference between the front and rear.

I don't think you can go wrong with either. If you want ultimate grip though, and are choosing between the Summitomo and Kuhmo, go with the Summitomo's.

 

[JaySHOguy]

Well, I have the Kumho 712's in 225/55/16 on my '97... They were the V-rated. I do not think they handle corners well at ALL. They squeal like a pig going around corners, and it feels like the sidewalls are too soft for my heavy car.

Maybe the Z-rated 712's make a huge difference? shrug
Also, they are summer-only tires. They do not like cold road surfaces.

Wish I spent the extra $20 per tire and went with the B.F. Goodrich KDWS Z-rated tires.

 

[SHO Mojo]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the info...keep it coming! I'm sure there's plenty more of you out there.

thumbs_u

 

[edmontonsho]

I have Hancook Ventus K102 225/45/17 ZR. They were about 170 cdn, so that would be a bit over 100U.S. I put them on last spring and they held up really good for summer use.

For a comparison the tire guy showed me some Michelins of the same size and they were 350cdn, So I thought being have the price, even if they did wear a bit faster it would be a lot cheaper.

 

[SHOZ123]

Jay97SHO:
Well, I have the Kumho 712's in 225/55/16 on my '97... They were the V-rated. I do not think they handle corners well at ALL. They squeal like a pig going around corners, and it feels like the sidewalls are too soft for my heavy car.

Maybe the Z-rated 712's make a huge difference? shrug

I have the Z rated Kumho in a 245/45/16 size. Best rain tire I have ever had and stick like glue. They do make a lot of noise when pushed but seldom break loose. Make sure you pump up the tire, max inflation pressure is 44lbs on these tires. If you are only putting in 35lbs or so they will flex.

 

[ChitownA34DR]

Nitto's are not in your price range? I'd buy some NT-450's if I were you. I had them on my 17's and loved them!

 

[SHOSIG]

Hey SHO 92, check out Discount Tire Direct, they have a wheel called the Rage 5.0 on sale. I installed a set on a white 92 in 18" and they looked clean! As far as tire selection Mojo, I had a set of Kumho 712 on my 'stang and liked them for the price, the Yokohama ES100 are supposed to be a pretty good tire according to my co-worker who test drove a set on an autocross course, not really a Dunlop fan, but I am thinking about putting on a set of Nitto 555's next year. I just got a set of Dunlop Sport W-10's for next to nothing on my ride now. Save yourself a headache, buy them local, Discount Tire fixes your flats free and rotates and rebalances for free if you buy from them( I know I work for them). If you find a good price online, print the quote and take it to one of the stores! They will more than likely match that price(plus shipping). Hope this helps!

 

[JaySHOguy]

Paul,
Yes, they are one of the best tires in the rain.

I have the fronts all the way up to 42psi, and the rears at 40. I am constantly losing traction around off-ramps. The car just pushed right to the outside of the turn. Now(for winter) I have the slicers and a set of Goodyear GT something or other Z-rated 225/55's, and the car corners SOOO much better. shrug

 

[blackhawk60]

I have the 712's in (235/45/17) on my Alero and they are by far the best tire wet and dry I have ever had. I still am amazed how much they grip when raining or even in snow.

 

[JaySHOguy]

blackhawk60:
I have the 712's in (235/45/17) on my Alero and they are by far the best tire wet and dry I have ever had. I still am amazed how much they grip when raining or even in snow.

You are able to drive in the snow with Kumho's?

I had a **** of a time even getting traction on cold, wet roads. The snow I ran into coming home from a weekend trip was horrible. I had to fight to keep the car from sliding off the road.

 

[Mongo]

Bridgestone Pole Position! Tire Rack says $156. Best set of tires I've ever owned were $$ Bridgestones: useless in snow, but brilliant dry. Especially capable on wet roads, where lesser tires don't meet the grade and you smack into the rear of granny's Tempo at the stop light.

 

[MYSHO1]

Kumho Hp4's from what i have herd are good, i just bought them $215 shipped for all 4! Tirerack