Opinions on water wetter

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
Snake oil or legit? In the middle of a coolant flush and was contemplating this. Any reason to not do it? Was looking at either the Amsoil stuff (as I like their products) or the Redline stuff.

Opinions?
 

High on Ethanol

Just Ain't Care
Joined
Aug 3, 2019
Messages
1,641
Reaction score
1,763
Location
USA
Snake oil or legit? In the middle of a coolant flush and was contemplating this. Any reason to not do it? Was looking at either the Amsoil stuff (as I like their products) or the Redline stuff.

Opinions?


It helped when I used it in a 1984 s10 with a 355 and a shatty cooling system. Not by much though, maybe 5 degrees~ Also, do you like amsoil or just enjoy the shed-time?
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
It helped when I used it in a 1984 s10 with a 355 and a shatty cooling system. Not by much though, maybe 5 degrees~ Also, do you like amsoil or just enjoy the shed-time?
Lol...seems the Amsoil and Redline are held in higher regard than some of the other wetters out there. I can get Amsoil stuff pretty cheap since I know a rep personally. That's really the only reason I stick to them.
 

StealBlueSho

SHO Member
Joined
Jan 22, 2015
Messages
1,863
Reaction score
2,431
Location
NA
Used water wetter in my escorts when I AutoX’d them back in the day. I would say it helped keep things a bit cooler, didn’t have all the digital gauges at the time, but the analog ones showed a slight bit cooler.
 

802SHO

Boost > VE, MBT, Cams
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2019
Messages
3,253
Reaction score
7,824
Location
Essex Junction Vermont
I’m currently using Redline water wetter. How much cooler does it run? I haven’t even checked I just know it it’s not going to hurt anything. If it helps that’s a plus.
 

High on Ethanol

Just Ain't Care
Joined
Aug 3, 2019
Messages
1,641
Reaction score
1,763
Location
USA
Lol...seems the Amsoil and Redline are held in higher regard than some of the other wetters out there. I can get Amsoil stuff pretty cheap since I know a rep personally. That's really the only reason I stick to them.

By pretty cheap, you are referring to the butt stuff in the neighborhood shed?

I gotta say I used to be hard-core amsoil but now after my recent experience....Ford probably has equivalents for all of their products.
Redline on the other hand....im still a fan of.
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
By pretty cheap, you are referring to the butt stuff in the neighborhood shed?

I gotta say I used to be hard-core amsoil but now after my recent experience....Ford probably has equivalents for all of their products.
Redline on the other hand....im still a fan of.
If, by butt stuff, you mean Butte Sects, than yes....that's what I was referring to. Lol....

I'm not really married to Amsoil, I can just get their stuff at good prices.
 
Last edited:

Majestic

SHO Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2016
Messages
1,238
Reaction score
1,001
Snake oil or legit? In the middle of a coolant flush and was contemplating this. Any reason to not do it? Was looking at either the Amsoil stuff (as I like their products) or the Redline stuff.

Opinions?
Just reduces surface tension which reduces bubbles and allows the water to circulate better. If you are just running in above freezing temps, it is fine as long as you use distilled water.
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
Just reduces surface tension which reduces bubbles and allows the water to circulate better. If you are just running in above freezing temps, it is fine as long as you use distilled water.
I live in a part of Cali where it never freezes, lol. But I'd be mixing it with the prediluted Motorcraft Orange stuff, not running distilled water, that can introduce other issues if run for too long.
 

SaveMelMac

SHO Member
Joined
May 25, 2018
Messages
205
Reaction score
147
Location
Texas
I live in a part of Cali where it never freezes, lol. But I'd be mixing it with the prediluted Motorcraft Orange stuff, not running distilled water, that can introduce other issues if run for too long.
The water wetter stuff works. Seen it more effective in smaller engines/ motorcycles. And you want to use distilled water in the cooling system.
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
The water wetter stuff works. Seen it more effective in smaller engines/ motorcycles. And you want to use distilled water in the cooling system.
When creating diluted coolant by adding water to a concentrate, yes, distilled water is the way to go. I am referring to the post above by @Majestic which I interpreted to suggest using ONLY distilled water in the cooling system. In that case, no, as this creates a condition similar to using only de-ionized water, where the chemical structure of the water will begin to corrode the inside of the cooling system. Bottom line, I would never want to use any sort of straight water, be it tap, distilled, or deionized, in a cooling system that sees any sort of long term use.

All that being said, I admittedly may have misinterpreted that post where he actually meant using it to dilute a coolant concentrate.

But in my case, the Motorcraft Orange comes prediluted, so no need to add any sort of water. I was more curious about adding water wetter to that mixture.
 

802SHO

Boost > VE, MBT, Cams
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2019
Messages
3,253
Reaction score
7,824
Location
Essex Junction Vermont
When creating diluted coolant by adding water to a concentrate, yes, distilled water is the way to go. I am referring to the post above by @Majestic which I interpreted to suggest using ONLY distilled water in the cooling system. In that case, no, as this creates a condition similar to using only de-ionized water, where the chemical structure of the water will begin to corrode the inside of the cooling system. Bottom line, I would never want to use any sort of straight water, be it tap, distilled, or deionized, in a cooling system that sees any sort of long term use.

All that being said, I admittedly may have misinterpreted that post where he actually meant using it to dilute a coolant concentrate.

But in my case, the Motorcraft Orange comes prediluted, so no need to add any sort of water. I was more curious about adding water wetter to that mixture.
I assumed he meant a coolant diluted with distilled water, which I just had to do bc Motorcraft Green is a concentrate. Previously I was using a premix from OReillys and I used Royal Purple water wetter...no adverse effects I’m not sure if it was much cooler then as well. It fluctuates between 185-195 mostly at full operating temp
 

SaveMelMac

SHO Member
Joined
May 25, 2018
Messages
205
Reaction score
147
Location
Texas
You living in Sac where it pretty much will never freeze if you’re looking for max cooling efficiency out of the system I would run a 60 water 40 coolant mix or 70 water/30 coolant. Water has the best heat transfer capabilities than the coolant. The coolant is there for the freezing protection along with lubrication of the cooling system. If memory serves me right water wetter says you can add to a 100% water system to get the lubrication protection and such but I won’t do that in a street car. Like you said before to much can go wrong in the long run.
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
You living in Sac where it pretty much will never freeze if you’re looking for max cooling efficiency out of the system I would run a 60 water 40 coolant mix or 70 water/30 coolant. Water has the best heat transfer capabilities than the coolant. The coolant is there for the freezing protection along with lubrication of the cooling system. If memory serves me right water wetter says you can add to a 100% water system to get the lubrication protection and such but I won’t do that in a street car. Like you said before to much can go wrong in the long run.
It also contains some inhibitors to mitigate corrosion...
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
I assumed he meant a coolant diluted with distilled water, which I just had to do bc Motorcraft Green is a concentrate. Previously I was using a premix from OReillys and I used Royal Purple water wetter...no adverse effects I’m not sure if it was much cooler then as well. It fluctuates between 185-195 mostly at full operating temp
Problem with changing from a dex-cool based (orange/red) coolant to a traditional (green) coolant is that, unless it is THOROUGHLY flushed (honestly, not easily done) it can form a sort of sludge. Even flushing can often still leave the silicates found in dex-cool. Depending on what the vehicle came with (which some Fords have come with and recommend the green stuff) can sometimes mean you are stuck with that variation for the durarion of the vehicles life. Arguments can probably be made on either side, but dex-cool was engineered to be used with aluminum engines to help minimize the corrosion in those engines.
 

802SHO

Boost > VE, MBT, Cams
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2019
Messages
3,253
Reaction score
7,824
Location
Essex Junction Vermont
Problem with changing from a dex-cool based (orange/red) coolant to a traditional (green) coolant is that, unless it is THOROUGHLY flushed (honestly, not easily done) it can form a sort of sludge. Even flushing can often still leave the silicates found in dex-cool. Depending on what the vehicle came with (which some Fords have come with and recommend the green stuff) can sometimes mean you are stuck with that variation for the durarion of the vehicles life. Arguments can probably be made on either side, but dex-cool was engineered to be used with aluminum engines to help minimize the corrosion in those engines.
When I bought it it was green at 52k miles. I didn’t touch it until I did the GH IC at about 69-70k IIRC. I drained it and went to the parts store and bought their most expensive stuff they had...didn’t do much research. It was marked to be used for Ford so I bought it, a gold color 50/50 mix came out like clear almost. Dumped a bottle of royal purple in it. After mixed my reservoir was still green. Emptied it again to remove the GH IC, filled back up again with the same stuff from the store that’s basically no color, still green when I emptied it again to do the phenolic spacer....needed a dust shield and radiator plug from Ford so decided to get my coolant there too. So back to green concentrate..add diluted water. And then redline water wetter. I wish I had just kept it all motorcraft for peace of mind. I think it should be fine.
 

Ecoboost_xsport

SHO Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
3,944
Location
Sacramento, CA
When I bought it it was green at 52k miles. I didn’t touch it until I did the GH IC at about 69-70k IIRC. I drained it and went to the parts store and bought their most expensive stuff they had...didn’t do much research. It was marked to be used for Ford so I bought it, a gold color 50/50 mix came out like clear almost. Dumped a bottle of royal purple in it. After mixed my reservoir was still green. Emptied it again to remove the GH IC, filled back up again with the same stuff from the store that’s basically no color, still green when I emptied it again to do the phenolic spacer....needed a dust shield and radiator plug from Ford so decided to get my coolant there too. So back to green concentrate..add diluted water. And then redline water wetter. I wish I had just kept it all motorcraft for peace of mind. I think it should be fine.
I'm sure you'll be fine. It may have been green stuff for a long time before you got it and cycled through enough to avoid any potential issues.
 

dinojc86

SHO Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2018
Messages
148
Reaction score
41
Location
New York
Never heard of it. That is why I love this forum.
I have learned so much from you guys in the two years I have owned by SHO.
Thank you all.
 

RonPorter

SHO Club of America
Joined
Feb 25, 2001
Messages
3,722
Reaction score
2,572
Location
Lake Orion, MI
Water Wetter was designed to be used in off-road vehicles that don't run antifreeze. It is supposed to make regular water "work better", similar to what glycol antifreezes do the regular street vehicles.

We had this whole discussion about 25 years ago (!!) when the topic came up with the serious SHO guys, primarily involved with the SHO Shop. SoCal guys don't really have a need for antifreeze. Apparently, adding it to any glycol antifreeze system is a waste of money, as your antifreeze does what water wetter does.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
107,098
Messages
1,181,375
Members
16,160
Latest member
tinkerkathleen

Members online

Back
Top