Getting prepped for black interior swap

[boat]

I have come into recent possession of a black interior from a 93 and I have some questions. I have done a search for the last couple of hours and have found nothing to speak of on this subject. And it relates to airbags.

This black interior is going into my red/mocha 94 MTX. I know the 92 airbags are different, and would not work (looked at SHOContinental's interior swap). Is there any reason why the black 93 airbags would not work in my 94?

I was told by another forum member that my computer only "knows" the airbags in my SHO. That if I put different airbags in, they won't work. To me this makes no sense. I would think 93 airbags would go in a 94 no problem and function as they should. The airbags are fired off a 12v contact and it really shouldn't matter whether or not the airbags in my SHO come from a 93,94, or a 95.

Am I right? If I am wrong, please tell me.

If need be, I can paint them, but I would like to avoid doing that, just to keep the mocha interior complete for later plans.

Also, are there any other parts I should consider replacing besides the heater core when I do this swap?

 

[hawkeye18]

They are electrically identical.

Edit: Replace the blend door actuator and blower motor as well. Can't hurt...

 

[SHObill]

Everything will swap over fine! thou you may find a harness plug that may differ. We found a couple swapping a dash from a 91 into a 90.

 

[shonuffmine]

make sure you disconnect the air bag module and discharge it correctly before handing the air bag itself

 

[hawkeye18]

make sure you disconnect the air bag module and discharge it correctly before handing the air bag itself

pff, screw that. Just point the air bag away from you when you disconnect it lol.

Seriously though, I don't think I've ever had a battery disconnected when I unplugged air bags. Haven't had one go off on me yet. I do like to live dangerously, though...

 

[Eric VerValin]

Same here... splice away... lol THats what I am going to do when I get my connector back..... (ahem.. Andrew?) lol

 

[firebat45]

pff, screw that. Just point the air bag away from you when you disconnect it lol.

Seriously though, I don't think I've ever had a battery disconnected when I unplugged air bags. Haven't had one go off on me yet. I do like to live dangerously, though...

Most nervous moment on my SHO so far, plugging in a spliced airbag. Swapped steering wheel to the newer style and had to splice the old connector to the new airbag.

 

[hawkeye18]

Most nervous moment on my SHO so far, plugging in a spliced airbag. Swapped steering wheel to the newer style and had to splice the old connector to the new airbag.

there is a very, very, very low chance that there is ever voltage on the airbag circuit when there isn't supposed to be. Ford engineers spent a lot of time making sure their airbags didn't just randomly fire whenever the **** they wanted to.. you'll notice that the airbag wiring is very well protected during its whole length from the ADM onwards from metal stuff and moving parts.

 

[SHOtime2511]

Im sure they didn't intend on voltage going through there products brake fluid causing all sorts of random Fords to burst into flames either.
all im saying is,when your working with airbags disconnect the battery and discharge the system.
It takes all of 1 min.

 

[boat]

Electrically identical in the fact there are the same number and color of wires and they need to be spliced? Or they just plug into each other, one for one?

They are electrically identical.

Edit: Replace the blend door actuator and blower motor as well. Can't hurt...

 

[SHO Continental]

Good luck with the swap! Glad my old thread had some useful info. :sun:

 

[hawkeye18]

Im sure they didn't intend on voltage going through there products brake fluid causing all sorts of random Fords to burst into flames either.
all im saying is,when your working with airbags disconnect the battery and discharge the system.
It takes all of 1 min.

Touché, good sir, but you must admit that air bags would've been a much more obvious path of potential lawsuits than a little brake switch.

As far as being connecterically (sure, it's a word, there it is right there!) identical, there really weren't many electrical differences between a 93 and a 94. The only real differences I can think of are knuckles and transmission internals on the ATXs. Since nothing's different on the inside, why would Ford change anything?

 

[boat]

connecterically, I like that.

I just thought there could be some differences. Good point.
Thanks :wave:

As far as being connecterically (sure, it's a word, there it is right there!) identical, there really weren't many electrical differences between a 93 and a 94. The only real differences I can think of are knuckles and transmission internals on the ATXs. Since nothing's different on the inside, why would Ford change anything?

 

[boat]

blend door actuator = heater blend door lever(what its called on rockauto)? Are these the same?

Heater core would not be a bad idea at this point either.

Edit: Replace the blend door actuator and blower motor as well. Can't hurt...

 

[firebat45]

Electrically identical in the fact there are the same number and color of wires and they need to be spliced? Or they just plug into each other, one for one?

For me at least, when I upgraded from 92- style to 93+, there was the same number of wires and the same colors, but a different connector. It only took a few minutes to swap.

Low chance of it going of? Sure. But there's a low chance of dying from skydiving too. Human brain doesn't always think logically.

 

[hawkeye18]

blend door actuator = heater blend door lever(what its called on rockauto)? Are these the same?

Heater core would not be a bad idea at this point either.

I can't get rockauto to come up (I'm tethered on my phone; not a very fast connection) but that sounds about right. Make sure you have the actuator and not the lever itself lol.

Didn't you say heater core at the top of the thread? lol

 

[Eric VerValin]

For me at least, when I upgraded from 92- style to 93+, there was the same number of wires and the same colors, but a different connector. It only took a few minutes to swap.

Low chance of it going of? Sure. But there's a low chance of dying from skydiving too. Human brain doesn't always think logically.

Same here... I put the 93's wheel in when I did my swap.. and my motor / harnesses were from the 92.

 

[hawkeye18]

well, there was a pretty major refresh between 92s and 93s. Different dash, steering wheel, console, pretty much the whole interior was different. I'd expect some wiring differences.

 

[K-Dawg]

well, there was a pretty major refresh between 92s and 93s. Different dash, steering wheel, console, pretty much the whole interior was different. I'd expect some wiring differences.

The dashes were the same between 92-93 as far as I can tell. Except for the steering wheel, console and package tray, pretty much the whole interior is the same.

I think the wiring behind the dash changed for 94-95.

 

[Eric VerValin]

Nope wiring was different in 92. Pin outs were different, 1 less air bag hole in the dash too, and the wires around the console were a little different.... different enough I still need to extend the power wire over to my cig lighter..

The harness in the body of the car is different between 92-93.. 93's had a 5th connector that wasn't found on the 92's dash harness. It dangles in my car... and I'm assuming it was the different Key fob deals.. as 92's didn't come with "keyless" key fobs. At least mine didn't.. nor my 91.