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If I remember correctly you said that you would have put in a high pressure fuel pump a lot sooner in the SHO for all the benefit it gave you.

Do you think maybe it could have the same benefit in the Mercedes?
Probably not. I mean it is going 10.9x tune only with drop in filters on street tires. The money I will need to spend to get into the 9's isn't worth it.

I wouldnt be shocked with catless dp's and a recalibration that it picks up a couple tenths. I know on a drag radial it will pick up a couple tenths as well. So realistically a 10.60 to a 10.70.

Trying to pick up the last 6 tenths will take pumps and turbos. 15k later, I don't think it will be worth it.

Plus as it sits..it is borderline too fast for public street right now to be honest.
 

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Over the next couple of days I put another 60 miles on the car. Before this run I put the tires at Mercedes recommended psi. 41 psi in the front, and 33 psi in the rear. I then went to another street and the car backed up the quarter mile time. Damn thing could be a bracket car. Even with the tire pressure adjustment, the car got out 200 ft and spun, however the 4matic + gathered it up quickly, and it ran almost identical to the crappy road, 36 psi squared tire pressure. Usually on the 60 to 130 I run the car out to 135+, but on this road I wasn't comfortable doing that, hence no 60 to 130 pull.

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By no means am I disappointed or upset about these numbers. This is incredible. However, there is always a way to optimize what I have.

My future immediate plans are to add some Sunoco unleaded 100 to the craptastic 91 octane here in Az. Tuner said that getting the octane to the 93/94 octane level will allow the car to pick up even more. So back to the crappy road soon with the 93/94 octane mix to see if the big end picks up.

The Pilot 4s on my car are fairly new. However, even with a 1.72 sixty foot, it feels like it spins pretty hard around the 200 foot mark on the crappy road and the good road. A 3.16 is the best I have ever had 0 to 60. Yet I see people post 2.90 and 3.00's regularly on the same tire on their E63s. I did ask what tire pressure they are running.

I know my DA isn't the greatest, the 1381 is the best I have seen so far. So I will just have to deal with that.

I am waiting on my fab guy to install my catless DP's as well. Hopefully I can get those on and the have the car re-tuned by Christmas.20241207 164154
 

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So went back out tonight. It is coldish here in Phoenix, but the DA was the best I have seen yet. I set my tires to Mercedes recommended psi. 41 psi front and 33 psi rear while they were cold. That is what the other Merc guys say they are running.

I roughly had 4 gallons of 91 octane in the tank. I added two gallons of Sunoco 100 octane. Octane calculator calls it 94 octane.

I went on a 10 mile drive like I do every time to get the trans and oil temps up. Went to the spot.

It spun about 100 feet out. The 4Matic + gathered it up quickly but almost 2 tenths slower 0 to 60.

Screenshot 20241210 222845 dragy

60 foot was 1 tenth slower, 1/8 mile was .15 slower but best mph, and the elapsed time was slower by one tenth. PR for mph. If it went what it does normally, that
pass is a low 10.80 pass.

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I believe it would have been a low 10.80 pass because it picked up .32 tenths 60 to 130. I almost made it back up on the big end. It just goes to show how important short times are.

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Couple of other observations. Usually when I run my passes it has been in the low 60's for temp and my tire temps are in the low 100's. Tonight it was 50 degrees and my tires temps were in the low 80's. Most of my passes have been with roughly a 1/2 tank. Tonight it was roughly a 1/4 tank.

My thoughts. I have good inclinations that it is making more power. Better fuel, colder temps, and good DA. Usually it spins 200 feet out. I think it spun 100 feet out tonight. To pick up .36 tenths from the 60 to 130 is a big deal. The tuner said it would run harder with 93/94 octane...boy was he right. I also think having less fuel in the car hurt the short time as well.
 
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Immediate plans. Hopefully by the end of the weekend DP's will be installed. Next Monday I have a PPF/tint appointment. Hopefully sometime next week the tuner will be able to recalibrate the tune for the catless DP's. Should put close to 700 hp and 800 + tq to the tire.

Ideally I would like them to tune the car on pure 91 and see the new numbers. Then after the tune is complete, if they could throw in the Sunoco 100 and get the octane up to 94 and see how much more it picks would be pretty rad.

Hopefully I can get this all done before Christmas. Fingers crossed. Of course I will keep you guys informed.
 

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So without touching the tune at all. The tuner had to abort the first run because we are completely out of fuel pump boys. The catless downpipes really got the little 4 liter bent way out of shape.
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You can see the aborted run.. She cranked off 826 ft of tq at 2750 rpm. The downpipes, moved the tq curve 1000 rpm sooner in the power band, and she was well on her way to make 700+ hp. This means it is demanding more fuel earlier which means the stock high pressure fuel pumps are donzo. Yes you heard that right....Pump(s) with an S. The tuner had to turn the car down and it is safe now. Yes he knocked off 42 ft tq off the peak. Yes I am 100% okay with that because everything comes in sooner.

However, eff that stock hpfp nonsense. I want a 725+ hp and 850 ft tq Merc, so we are getting fuel pumps.

I have added the stock dyno graph below for reference.

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Probably not. I mean it is going 10.9x tune only with drop in filters on street tires. The money I will need to spend to get into the 9's isn't worth it.

I wouldnt be shocked with catless dp's and a recalibration that it picks up a couple tenths. I know on a drag radial it will pick up a couple tenths as well. So realistically a 10.60 to a 10.70.

Trying to pick up the last 6 tenths will take pumps and turbos. 15k later, I don't think it will be worth it.

Plus as it sits..it is borderline too fast for public street right now to be honest.
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If I remember correctly you said that you would have put in a high pressure fuel pump a lot sooner in the SHO for all the benefit it gave you.

Do you think maybe it could have the same benefit in the Mercedes?
Let me re-visit this comment. I had no interest in putting fuel pumps in this car. Two things happened we when installed the downpipes. First I did not expect the downpipes to pick up so much without a tune revision. If you look at the graph on the aborted run it was choochin to over 700 hp+ and over 825 tq. Also the tq curve moved so early into the RPM range.

I spoke to the tuner, and the PTG pumps are so expensive. However the Spool Performance Pumps are reported to be just as good and bit less. Dyno Comp are not a retailer for Spool, but that is to my advantage. They started the paperwork to become one. They are willing to work with me with not only price but with labor if I purchase them. It takes 10 hours to replace the HPFP on these cars. We have an idea on how much it will cost and I am comfortable with it. Once everything becomes a bit more clear, I will release the details.

Long story short, I will be the first Dyno Comp Tuned / Spool HPFP equipped AMG for them, and I want them to use/highlight my car for their AMG portfolio.
 
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