Rear Sun Shade

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Hey y'all! I have a 2011 Kona Blue SHO. I used the power rear sun shade for the very first time a couple of weeks ago because the driver behind me had their high beams on. It worked perfectly. A few days ago, I attempted to use it again and when I pushed the button...nothing happened. I had a 2012 White Platinum SHO with the rear sun shade that had stopped working, as well. I had taken it to Loganville Ford (a dealership outside of Atlanta near where I live and work) and they told me that everything had to be replaced to the tune of $1600. I told them I would think about it but a couple of days later that SHO was involved in an accident and was totaled. I don't really feel like spending $1600 to fix something that I rarely use. It's in the "down" position so it's not even noticeable. However, it would be nice to have it working. Has anyone out in SHO Forum Land had this issue? Your comments would be most welcome. Thanks everybody! Cliff
 

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I've heard of it failing but I've been fortunate enough (knock on wood) that mine still works. I can tell you that the fuse, at least on my 2012, is #41 - Delayed Accessory Feeds. I would have never known that but I accidentally found it while wiring a dash cam and panicked when the shade wouldn't go down after I pulled that fuse.

Maybe you'll get lucky and it's just a blown fuse.Bb76cb42072617428f07c9667d81878a

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Thanks Josh. I will look into the fuse idea. BTW...when I totaled my White Platinum 2012 SHO, I looked everywhere for a Red Candy Metallic SHO like the one you have. There are none. It would be very interesting to know the build numbers by color on the SHO's. Cliff
 

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Thanks Josh. I will look into the fuse idea. BTW...when I totaled my White Platinum 2012 SHO, I looked everywhere for a Red Candy Metallic SHO like the one you have. There are none. It would be very interesting to know the build numbers by color on the SHO's. Cliff
When I bought mine years ago, I wanted any color but red. I've grown to love it but so do cops. I daily drove a boosted convertible C/S Mustang that screamed "look at me" and never got a ticket. I've lost count of how many this SHO has landed me in the past 6 years.

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Hey y'all! I have a 2011 Kona Blue SHO. I used the power rear sun shade for the very first time a couple of weeks ago because the driver behind me had their high beams on. It worked perfectly. A few days ago, I attempted to use it again and when I pushed the button...nothing happened. I had a 2012 White Platinum SHO with the rear sun shade that had stopped working, as well. I had taken it to Loganville Ford (a dealership outside of Atlanta near where I live and work) and they told me that everything had to be replaced to the tune of $1600. I told them I would think about it but a couple of days later that SHO was involved in an accident and was totaled. I don't really feel like spending $1600 to fix something that I rarely use. It's in the "down" position so it's not even noticeable. However, it would be nice to have it working. Has anyone out in SHO Forum Land had this issue? Your comments would be most welcome. Thanks everybody! Cliff
Gear is stripped. It will eventually work if you push the button long enough. I never use mine.
 

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@ the OP......I have to check my parts closet for mine, and I used it once and never again as I got my windows limo tinted.

If I verify i still have it, you can have it for the cost of packaging and shipping from 60451.

Shoot me a PM if interested before I go digging.

It would be coming from 60451-3697.

It doesn't weigh a lot, mind you, but the whole setup is long (as wide as the rear windshield), so IDK if they charge extra for the sheer length of it.

Just trying to help a fellow SHO owner out. Oh, my MY is a 2010. I would imagine it would be the same for your MY.

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When I bought mine years ago, I wanted any color but red. I've grown to love it but so do cops. I daily drove a boosted convertible C/S Mustang that screamed "look at me" and never got a ticket. I've lost count of how many this SHO has landed me in the past 6 years.

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That's kinda funny. You would think the cops would go after the Mustang and leave the "Taurus" alone. Where I live in the Atlanta suburbs Gwinnett County area, they use the white Taurus as police cars and when I had my White Platinum one, people in front of me would NOT go over the speed limit and most of the time would stay 5 or 10 miles per hour under it. It was maddening! One time when I was sitting at a traffic light, I had a Gwinnett County motorcycle officer wave at me as he was driving by. True story! When I got the blue one, I don't have those issues anymore. Did you read where "Majestic" said the gear might be stripped? That would probably come from a lot of use, wouldn't it?
 
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Exactly! I actually did get pulled once in the Mustang. An undercover cop followed me for more than 10 miles on the highway as I did a steady 95 MPH. I maneuvered through traffic using my signal and never being reckless. When he pulled me, I just knew my license was gone. I told him about my CCP, super polite, like always.

It was Dec 23. I told him I was just running late for work (true) and I knew I'd messed up. He gave me a verbal warning, wished me a Merry Christmas, and let me go. Best gift ever!

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Gear is stripped. It will eventually work if you push the button long enough. I never use mine.
That sounds like a possible good candidate for 3D modeling and printing out of nylon. Several years ago I modeled the main gear for the HVAC actuators since I had just had one strip out and thought it looked like a fun challenge. Certainly not because it was going to save anyone time or money. But for a $1600 sunshade.... I thought I read that there are some limit switches that fail in the sunshade as well, but maybe I'm getting these confused with the Ford truck retractable running boards. I do KNOW those commonly have switch issues.

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That sounds like a possible good candidate for 3D modeling and printing out of nylon. Several years ago I modeled the main gear for the HVAC actuators since I had just had one strip out and thought it looked like a fun challenge. Certainly not because it was going to save anyone time or money. But for a $1600 sunshade.... I thought I read that there are some limit switches that fail in the sunshade as well, but maybe I'm getting these confused with the Ford truck retractable running boards. I do KNOW those commonly have switch issues.

-Rod
Just like the HVAC actuators. Gears made of plastic and end up losing teeth. I know this is done to save money, but it's just stupid to not use metal sprockets.
 

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Just like the HVAC actuators. Gears made of plastic and end up losing teeth. I know this is done to save money, but it's just stupid to not use metal sprockets.
It's smart for them. They're quieter running and cheaper to produce. And they're guaranteed revenue on repairs.

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That sounds like a possible good candidate for 3D modeling and printing out of nylon.
I was thinking the same thing, I can get Nylon filament and try to replicate the gear...issue is my sunshade still works so im scared to take it apart to get an example lol
 
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Looking into carbon fiber printing now, my sunshade works but it stalls at times so i know the time is coming. if I can get the gear made in a high strength material like carbon fiber or nylon i will let you all know
 

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For this, I think nylon would be the better choice. Carbon fiber is more abrasive, hence why it requires a hardened nozzle to print. It may accelerate wear of other parts. Nylon would likely be quite similar to the original material. It seems 3D additive printing in carbon fiber is more for appearance than for strength. It does add some strength, but maybe not enough to make it worth the extra filament cost if strength is more important than appearance.

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For this, I think nylon would be the better choice. Carbon fiber is more abrasive, hence why it requires a hardened nozzle to print. It may accelerate wear of other parts. Nylon would likely be quite similar to the original material. It seems 3D additive printing in carbon fiber is more for appearance than for strength. It does add some strength, but maybe not enough to make it worth the extra filament cost if strength is more important than appearance.

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I had some time to do more research today and I found all of this to be true. the Carbon Fiber while it does add some rigidity is highly abrasive and minimal in carbon fiber content so it would seem its more for aesthetics. There is also a nylon/carbon fiber filament that was interesting but it is extremely expensive. I will likely attempt one in nylon in the coming weeks, a friend had suggested casting, create a mold out of pla and wax to for aluminum which I can melt easily without a forge or invest in a forge, he has machining background so we discussed it and I may in the future attempt making an aluminum replacement gear for the sun shades.
 

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I had some time to do more research today and I found all of this to be true. the Carbon Fiber while it does add some rigidity is highly abrasive and minimal in carbon fiber content so it would seem its more for aesthetics. There is also a nylon/carbon fiber filament that was interesting but it is extremely expensive. I will likely attempt one in nylon in the coming weeks, a friend had suggested casting, create a mold out of pla and wax to for aluminum which I can melt easily without a forge or invest in a forge, he has machining background so we discussed it and I may in the future attempt making an aluminum replacement gear for the sun shades.
I think metal gears for all of the actuators would be the best option. You could go all Dorman and reproduce the whole unit as an upgrade that would probably last forever.
 

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The 03-04 era Crown VIc, Grand Marquis and Marauder with adjustable pedals had a problem with the driven gear crumbling. It would break whether you adjusted the pedals or not. There was a machinist who copied the plastic gear in bronze. He sold the gear for @ $80. It fixed the problem permanently, though it was a chore to install.
 

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The 03-04 era Crown VIc, Grand Marquis and Marauder with adjustable pedals had a problem with the driven gear crumbling. It would break whether you adjusted the pedals or not. There was a machinist who copied the plastic gear in bronze. He sold the gear for @ $80. It fixed the problem permanently, though it was a chore to install.
Same thing with the distributor gear on 2.3 Ford turbo engines from the SVO era.
 
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Soooo you're saying there's a market for it lol. I remember old ford truck window motors used to have plastic bushings that would crumble, everyone used nuts to fix it. Endless options now with the printer. I'll work on it and if I come up with a success I'll present it here. I could see an upgraded drive motor but not sure about a whole assembly.
 
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