gregoire
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From today at Beech Bend, Bowling Green KY. Low 60's with a slight tailwind. Terrible RT's, what can I say, I'm old.
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EcoBrick Bob
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Nice...
So when are you getting W/M & the 3 bar MAPv sensor?
So when are you getting W/M & the 3 bar MAPv sensor?
Nice!!
gregoire
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I dont even know what those are EBB. If it makes me go faster, I want them. Gonna do some googleing right now! Feel free to give me a clue here or in a PM.
EcoBrick Bob
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Since you are running Livernois tunes, you may want to contact them. My W/M system came via Torrie @ Unleashed Tuning & Fast Parts Network, as did my 3 Bar MAPv sensor.
The purpose of the Water/Methanol system is to cool your air charge, which allows your engine to make more power, when tuned for the cooler charge. The 3 Bar MAPv sensor which installs on top of your intake manifold, in place of the 2 Bar one, allows for boost levels that are higher than 1 atmosphere or 15.7 lbs of boost. In effect, Ford's 3 Bar MAPv sensor allows boost levels up to 2 atmospheres. But since our turbos can't build that much boost as they are small, it helps optimize the effective boost.
Note, this does require logging your WOT runs to make sure the new tunes keep your various parameters, such as Lambda (A/F), FRP (fuel rail pressure) and other things, to remain within safe limits.
Darreli is using both on his SHO. His W/M system allows for 100% Methanol.
There are several good articles on W/M systems. Read as many as you can. I found one that pertained to motorcycles that had a lengthy history of their use, going back to WW II airplanes.
The purpose of the Water/Methanol system is to cool your air charge, which allows your engine to make more power, when tuned for the cooler charge. The 3 Bar MAPv sensor which installs on top of your intake manifold, in place of the 2 Bar one, allows for boost levels that are higher than 1 atmosphere or 15.7 lbs of boost. In effect, Ford's 3 Bar MAPv sensor allows boost levels up to 2 atmospheres. But since our turbos can't build that much boost as they are small, it helps optimize the effective boost.
Note, this does require logging your WOT runs to make sure the new tunes keep your various parameters, such as Lambda (A/F), FRP (fuel rail pressure) and other things, to remain within safe limits.
Darreli is using both on his SHO. His W/M system allows for 100% Methanol.
There are several good articles on W/M systems. Read as many as you can. I found one that pertained to motorcycles that had a lengthy history of their use, going back to WW II airplanes.
EcoBrick Bob
SHO Member
Thought he was... But... "Only the PHANTOM "Darreli" Knows for Sure"! LOL
Only real benefit is that you can get a steady 2-3 lbs extra boost. Over that, it gets peaky...though does help some at high RPM. Negative that I have currently is too much spinning of fronts all the way thru first, and consequently having the thing shut down for a split second. That's why I have Nitto 05R's on order. Also, it makes the FRP drop more than before. That's why those Lambda Numbers are so critical to watch.
Only real benefit is that you can get a steady 2-3 lbs extra boost. Over that, it gets peaky...though does help some at high RPM. Negative that I have currently is too much spinning of fronts all the way thru first, and consequently having the thing shut down for a split second. That's why I have Nitto 05R's on order. Also, it makes the FRP drop more than before. That's why those Lambda Numbers are so critical to watch.
LMSRick
Livernois
Congrats! Very nice!!!
We use a 100% methanol system along with a Ford 3-bar sensor.
As of now, we can sell you the kit, but it will require some fabrication of brackets for the aux fill tank and pump. When we get another car in here for the install, we will duplicate it, but not sure when that will be.
-Rick
We use a 100% methanol system along with a Ford 3-bar sensor.
As of now, we can sell you the kit, but it will require some fabrication of brackets for the aux fill tank and pump. When we get another car in here for the install, we will duplicate it, but not sure when that will be.
-Rick
LMSRick
Livernois
EcoBrick Bob
SHO Member
Rick,
I installed my W/M pump behind the clear radiator expansion tank, using a short piece of aluminum strap, that allows it to quickly be removed. I also use the stock windshield washer tank as my only reservoir, for both cleaning the windshield as well as for my w/m solution. I realize the Alky Control system uses braided lines, vs the hard plastic ones most other systems use, but, even so, you can use the pump to pump out your methanol, back into a jug, after using it at the strip. The only reason this wouldn't be practical, is if the car is being used for racing on the street.... Or... if all of your fittings are not quick connect ones.
I installed my W/M pump behind the clear radiator expansion tank, using a short piece of aluminum strap, that allows it to quickly be removed. I also use the stock windshield washer tank as my only reservoir, for both cleaning the windshield as well as for my w/m solution. I realize the Alky Control system uses braided lines, vs the hard plastic ones most other systems use, but, even so, you can use the pump to pump out your methanol, back into a jug, after using it at the strip. The only reason this wouldn't be practical, is if the car is being used for racing on the street.... Or... if all of your fittings are not quick connect ones.
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