New 2014 non-pp...questions and comments

[vforrest]

Picked up my first Ford in years a 2014 SHO non-PP but has everything else on it so I'm learning something about the tech everyday. I have a question, all of the performance numbers HP & MPG have an asterisk that says they were based upon premium fuel. Yet the owners manual says 87 octane is fine and only need to consider 93 octane if you trailer or otherwise drive it really hard. So will you get better performance with premium as in everything including mpg? There are no details about what to expect in the manual. The dealer gave me the car when I picked it up with a full tank of gas and it too was 87 octane.

So this is my company car and I'll put 40K a year on it for four years before the next one and I'm coming out of a very fun Infiniti EX35 AWD that was a blast but REALLY needed premium fuel. I'm looking forward to regular 87 octane but I'm then curious how close to the 25 mpg. estimate will I get cruising @ 72 mph.

So I'm going to try mid-grade now with close to 3000 miles to see if there is a difference then a after 4-5 tanks I'll try premium and see how I do. So far no problems getting 25+ on the highway with one long interstate run at 27.2 mpg and love the 22-23 combined mileage on a tank...nice. Has any anyone already gone down this path....opinions?


COMMENTS:
While my car was in the body shop with the rattling mirror saga I went and talked to the three maintenance staff at the window about the PTU service schedule vs. the comments on the forum about the PTU oil looking like slug @ 25-30k. They unanimously said just stay with the schedule it's a non-issue. Living in WI I WILL need my AWD to perform just like in my last three cars and one tech said he had 120k on his original PTU oil and no probs....thoughts?

My NAV which is got the latest 2014 chip in it right...goes "off campus" every now and then when I have a route in progress. It has happened three times where the circle and chevron indicating your travel location is not spot on the green route line. This causes the NAV to start pumping out routes to get me back on the green line which clearly I have never left.....is that a common malfunction or should I be ******** about it to the dealership?

It also was missing the data for a belt line around a city that was done three years ago so I was just driving through farm fields freaking it out apparently. So basically I was amazed thinking I had the latest and greatest edition of data on my new 2014 NAV chip but clearly this fairly major 4 lane beltline was not in the data on the chip...thoughts?

I know that covers a bunch of ground but I have already appreciated the thoughts and comments from this forum.

Thanks

 

[Dave]

If you remain stock, I would still run at least mid-grade. Like 89? Won't hurt and probably much better for the engine. I am going to change my PTU fluid every 20K. Better to be safe. I haven't really had any problems with the Nav. Except for being off the line a couple times.

 

[integrity6987]

Mine runs noticeably "better" on 93. I too have a long commute and usually avg 80+ and still get 26mpg (I am usually behind other folks also driving 80+ so there is probably some drafting effect)

Once I got to a gas station on reserve and had to get 87 because they did not have other grades,and really noticed a difference. I think the ECU would have adjusted given time though.

 

[SHOdded]

Ask the dealer about updates for the NAV. Sometimes they don't make sure the latest & greatest maps are loaded until the customer raises the issue.

 

[gixxer007]

I am actually in the same boat as you. I use my 2013 SHO with PP for work which I drive 60 to 70 K a year with and usually drive them for two years and replace them. I love my SHO as the last two were non SHO taurus both were limited cars.

I always only run 93 in all my cars due to I found better mileage and also seems to run better in my head at least.

Oh and my 2013 just hit 42K with zero issues that you have mentioned so I can't really help on that sorry. But I can tell you that you will live the car and bet you end up with another one when the trade up time comes.

 

[vforrest]

So here are the results with trying different fuel octane, Premium, Mid-grade, regular:

This is just is a work car that is driven a lot of highway miles and the performance this summer was no difference noticed. I get a little over 27 on the highway and when I need to have it go fast it didn't feel any different. Maybe if I modified the engine like I did to my corvette I'd only run Premium.

Maybe the winter will be another good experiment.

 

[jmr061]

Which NAV card are you running? A4 or A5. A5 recently came out. Might have updated maps for your area. See your in WI too!! YAY.

 

[vforrest]

Which NAV card are you running? A4 or A5. A5 recently came out. Might have updated maps for your area. See your in WI too!! YAY.

Wow...you are going to have to tell me. Good question jmr! I just got the car in June it was built in May....what is the latest NAV card the A5? I asked and the card came with the build date and they tell me I have the latest...and that's disappointing if that's the case. The best they can do is check every time I come in for service to see if there is an update both to the NAV and data base.

I also get to wait for Ford to tell my dealer how to fix my rattling mirror...so I'm in a holding pattern for that too. Maybe I got spoiled with my last work car built by Infiniti...140,000 miles and NEVER had it in to fix something. Never had to get that something fixed in the first 30 days when you notice something wasn't quite right and never had to have it in because something broke...incredible!

This is like number 17-18 work car for me and the Infiniti was the only one that didn't have some brand new warranty issue to bring it in for. But with that said the sticker on this one in the back of my mind....I'm disappointed I'm having these head aches. I will also say after really closer inspection on the car looking for other potential rattling places I am very unimpressed with the car fitment and detail put into it by the mfg. plant in Chicago. Molding strips that clearly haven't been lined up and snuggly put in place...other gasket fitment for the windshield that weren't properly trimmed and snugged up just left hanging out...the door trim gaskets around the window frame and the bottom of the door...not good. My two Subaru's prior to my Infiniti were also excellent build quality and built in Lafayette, IN and they did a wonderful job done with American workers so you can't say that's the difference between foreign workers and American...for shame on those working in the Chicago Ford plant that built my SHO!

 

[SHOdded]

You can keep abreast of the latest for your vehicle at owner.ford.com and make sure you sign up for Sync updates.

http://support.ford.com/sync-technology/software-updates-sync-myford-touch

The latest Sync version is 3.6.2, I believe. Latest card is A5.

 

[Bosscav]

You can keep abreast of the latest for your vehicle at owner.ford.com and make sure you sign up for Sync updates.

http://support.ford....nc-myford-touch

The latest Sync version is 3.6.2, I believe. Latest card is A5.

That link didn't work for me on my phone. I have a 2010, does mine receive updates still or is it too old?

 

[jmr061]

The version of the NAV card has nothing to do with the version of Sync. The NAV card is a CF card put into th CF slot in the center console. Pop it out....should say A4 or A5 on it.

 

[SHOdded]

Pretty sure you don't pay for updates to Sync itself, but probably for services that ride on top of it, like navigation/maps etc.

 

[jmr061]

Correct sync updates are free. Considering the latest sync version has been out since late 2013 (if I recall correctly) his car should have it. When I purchased my car I signed up for Sync and also "ordered" the CF Map card before I took delivery (I knew the VIN so). The dealer wouldn't have given me the CF Map card so they told me. So it was a good thing I had it. The initial one is free after that you must purschase (totally disagree with that, but that's been talked about before and is another issue). I am hoping you have the A5 card but I wouldn't put it past anyone (the NAV company or Ford) to supply an old card. You should get the latest card available at the time of purchase of the vehicle.

 

[jmr061]

That link didn't work for me on my phone. I have a 2010, does mine receive updates still or is it too old?

You system is not MFT. You can still sign up for Sync updates but I think they abandoned the older system for updating. It will tell you if you have updates available though.

 

[vforrest]

Update Question:

So I started this thread a while back now as you can see, so I'm wondering how long do I have to drive a $47k vehicle with a rattle in the outside mirror that drives me crazy at highway speeds?

I was told by the body shop Mgr. that they have done all they can and are waiting for Ford Corp. to call the next shot...which feels like waiting for City Hall to call me back because they actually give a $h*t about me!

So what's your guess....I'll have a warranty repair item that goes unfixed for four years...they life of my company car before it's replaced....or I'll actually get this fixed?

 

[SHOdded]

For those wishing to acquaint themselves with the history of the ghostly mirror so far:
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=128020

I say change the entire door and see what happens Of course, the body lines may not ever be the same afterwards ... Unfixed for 4 years, my guess.

 

[vforrest]

For those wishing to acquaint themselves with the history of the ghostly mirror so far:
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=128020

I say change the entire door and see what happens Of course, the body lines may not ever be the same afterwards ... Unfixed for 4 years, my guess.

See how distraught I am....:frantic: I didn't even realize I was in the wrong thread....yikes....

 

[SHOdded]

Hah! Both threads are yours, so you get to pick