Insight Into Purchasing an 78k miles 2016 SHO PP

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Not necessarily. Depends what and why they are failing. They also won't be able to determine the amount of life left on the other 4 coils. Beyond cylinder issues, you still have all of the labor intensive parts that should have been replaced with the chain that need done. The fact that you are putting money into this car (paying for the labor/inspection) after all the advice and problems presented, just shows that you are sold on this car already. I suggest the next steps are a second job and becoming real familiar with the Gen 4 Maintenance & Troubleshooting section. Find a mechanic whose kids you want to put through school or invest in a great tool set.


I'm guessing the guy either had to pay for a motor ($3k-5k for a junkyard motor), labor (~20hrs), and all the needed maintenance of the replacement motor or he sold the car stupid cheap/scrapped it and lost a ton of money in the deal.

Yeah, look I have never done my timing chain and water pump, these are long and labor intensive processes. Even with a friend who owns a lift - I would still have a trusted shop do my work. All replies have been to help protect you financially. I can tell you this car is very costly when doing the type of work this seller is saying they are doing.

Attached is the bill I paid for just making sure my Accel coils - might - be causing a misfire just to rule them out. Look it hurts to dump nearly $500 on being proactive and getting ahead of a potential problem. This was for a stutter on a rolling wot spark bang dead pedal.

If you like me have a daily driver as a backup, and the financial means to throw parts at the problems- warm garage and like @Ta2dResqr the tools available- great, good for you. If this will be your daily driver and have tight money issues, for the love of anything wait and find another candidate.
 

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Not necessarily. Depends what and why they are failing. They also won't be able to determine the amount of life left on the other 4 coils. Beyond cylinder issues, you still have all of the labor intensive parts that should have been replaced with the chain that need done. The fact that you are putting money into this car (paying for the labor/inspection) after all the advice and problems presented, just shows that you are sold on this car already. I suggest the next steps are a second job and becoming real familiar with the Gen 4 Maintenance & Troubleshooting section. Find a mechanic whose kids you want to put through school or invest in a great tool set.


I'm guessing the guy either had to pay for a motor ($3k-5k for a junkyard motor), labor (~20hrs), and all the needed maintenance of the replacement motor or he sold the car stupid cheap/scrapped it and lost a ton of money in the deal.
The guy came to this forum for advice and he received some. He didn't ask us to judge him. He's emotionally invested in the car...we've all been there. Provide helpful advice and let him work through it.
 
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It seems to me like either a lemon or some incompetence on the sellers part, thats a laundry list of things to throw at a car older than 5 years for the purpose of resale. transparent or not there is a lot of things not adding up. Have you requested maintenance logs from Ford to see if it was taken care of at some point in its life? If I were you I would at least walk away for now, tell the guy to call you when its right and then look at the list of performed work and test drive it rather than riding this roller coaster with the guy trying to sell it to you. while you wait, watch the market, this is a forum full of knowledge and often learned the hard way, a couple things about these cars to remember:

1. They will never be a Toyota, these cars rely on maintenance regularly for more components than a standard car, otherwise you will have expensive failures
2. They are rare enough to be difficult to find especially one that was properly taken care of, it is most definitely worth it to shop around.
3. They are not cheap, between regular maintenance and repairs it adds up, having your own tools and a solid skill set or enough in the account to send it to a reputable shop is a must, otherwise you will drive it in to the ground

assuming this is a perspective daily driver, I personally wouldn't buy that one, I've followed my heart too many times and ended up stranded and broke with selling the car as my only relief (sometimes scrapping it). But I think the consensus here is that that one has some demons and our personal choices dont matter in your situation, but we have all given the requested advice and said what you should be prepared for not only buying a car with known issues but owning one of these specific cars in general. they're high maintenance even when they're right and this one youre looking at has some red flags that could lead to some very expensive repairs. the world is on fire and everythings expensive, this is a forum of good people that wouldnt wish financial crisis on anyone, we are just doing our best to prepare you for what is likely to happen given the information you've provided. I hope this helps, good luck
 

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It seems to me like either a lemon or some incompetence on the sellers part, thats a laundry list of things to throw at a car older than 5 years for the purpose of resale. transparent or not there is a lot of things not adding up. Have you requested maintenance logs from Ford to see if it was taken care of at some point in its life? If I were you I would at least walk away for now, tell the guy to call you when its right and then look at the list of performed work and test drive it rather than riding this roller coaster with the guy trying to sell it to you. while you wait, watch the market, this is a forum full of knowledge and often learned the hard way, a couple things about these cars to remember:

1. They will never be a Toyota, these cars rely on maintenance regularly for more components than a standard car, otherwise you will have expensive failures
2. They are rare enough to be difficult to find especially one that was properly taken care of, it is most definitely worth it to shop around.
3. They are not cheap, between regular maintenance and repairs it adds up, having your own tools and a solid skill set or enough in the account to send it to a reputable shop is a must, otherwise you will drive it in to the ground

assuming this is a perspective daily driver, I personally wouldn't buy that one, I've followed my heart too many times and ended up stranded and broke with selling the car as my only relief (sometimes scrapping it). But I think the consensus here is that that one has some demons and our personal choices dont matter in your situation, but we have all given the requested advice and said what you should be prepared for not only buying a car with known issues but owning one of these specific cars in general. they're high maintenance even when they're right and this one youre looking at has some red flags that could lead to some very expensive repairs. the world is on fire and everythings expensive, this is a forum of good people that wouldnt wish financial crisis on anyone, we are just doing our best to prepare you for what is likely to happen given the information you've provided. I hope this helps, good luck
Thank you for your transparency and insight. I will definitely not purchase before my mechanic buddy and I test drive it to it's limits, get a full PPI, bore scope & compression test along with a full part list of replacements. I already pulled the Oasis report on this vehicle and nothing but flooding through the moonroof that raised my eye. I will absolutely not purchase this vehicle if my mechanic buddy or myself sense anything major wrong with it. I appreciate every shred of advice that has been given to me and I will be talking with the technician who worked on this at the dealership to get an extensive overview of the issues and what they've done to solve said issues. If it turns out this vehicle isn't in sound condition, I will definitely lower the price significantly and if that isn't possible I will be walking away from this vehicle (as much as I had my mind set on this vehicle)
 

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Just find one on Carvana or somewhere that has a good history. Bought mine from Carvana 7 or so years ago. Very good experience was low miles, wasnt stolen lol. 20k miles or so when i bought it. 150k now and all new engine,ptu and rebuilt tran. Mostly all my fault.
 

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This is the way. I now have more in the car than i paid for the car. Enough power to shatter the transmission planets as i just did last month
I'm biased ofc lol.I'm no wizard but was rather suprised when I learned the DREADED Internal water pump and timing chain replacement was about as involved as a '02 Ford Focus SVT Headgasket job.
 

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I'm biased ofc lol.I'm no wizard but was rather suprised when I learned the DREADED Internal water pump and timing chain replacement was about as involved as a '02 Ford Focus SVT Headgasket job.
It’s a good design it’s just the engine is sideways. Internal waterpumps are best, there is weep holes externally but when they clog up it gotta go somewhere
 

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It’s a good design it’s just the engine is sideways. Internal waterpumps are best, there is weep holes externally but when they clog up it gotta go somewhere
You can imagine my delight when I was informed the 2nd and really only other complaint or design flaw with the platform was less than half as involved as that hahah
 

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