Gen 1 used in swap

[1nd0]

Im sorry if this has been asked before but i cant seem to find much info on this. Is it possible to use a 89-91 sho as a donor car for a 1993 atx to mtx conversion ? Most of what i have seen is people sugesting using a gen 2 trans in the swap.

 

[luigisho]

Yes you can use any of the gen I -II motors with mtx transmission. It's usually easier to take a 3.2 motor and put it into a manual car but it's all doable. It should be archived in here somewhere. I would use a 3.2 motor with a mtx if you can pull it off.

 

[zoomlater]

Here a thread swapping a 3.2 into an MTX car. Were you planning to keep the wiring that is in the ATX car, since you will run into issues that the car is looking for an ATX t r a n n y. If you bring the wiring over from your donor Gen 1 car, then some of the connectors will probably be different. Hamal's car (now the Red T u r d ) was an ATX car that became an MTX car. I remember him saying when he was going through the wiring to the t r a n n y, they were all blue wires so that Ford made his conversion that much more fun.

3.2l Swap Log

Hey guys, cool news! I just got back from hauling a complete 3.2l freshly pulled from 94 ATX, I mean with EVERYTHING (tranny, subframe, steering racks, axles,spindles, brakes, alt, etc) still attached. This is a great pick up and I got an amazing price for it all so the drive ( 9 hours total)...

shoforum.com

 

[zoomlater]

Here is another 3.2 swap into a Gen 1 car

Engine Swaps? - V6SHO

wiki.wikisho.com

 

[1nd0]

Thanks ya i had seen a few posts on the swap my main question was mostly a concerned with a gen 1 donor car going into a gen 2 car. I'm not sure what i am going to do for the ecu yet. Tempted to keep the atx and just trick it or maybe ill get a standalone ecu and not use ether of them.

 

[zoomlater]

Thanks ya i had seen a few posts on the swap my main question was mostly a concerned with a gen 1 donor car going into a gen 2 car. I'm not sure what i am going to do for the ecu yet. Tempted to keep the atx and just trick it or maybe ill get a standalone ecu and not use ether of them.

So I started digging around in my Sho pile of printed documents and found someone who did a 1993 ATX to MTX conversion from a rusted out 1990 MTX car. He shows how he did it and what parts he salvaged and purchased and what he did to trick the 3.2 PCM to get it to work. I need a day or so to scan it in and post it. I don't remember what site I found this, but printed it out in case I ever wanted to do something like this since it was so well documented (color pictures too).

 

[1nd0]

So I started digging around in my Sho pile of printed documents and found someone who did a 1993 ATX to MTX conversion from a rusted out 1990 MTX car. He shows how he did it and what parts he salvaged and purchased and what he did to trick the 3.2 PCM to get it to work. I need a day or so to scan it in and post it. I don't remember what site I found this, but printed it out in case I ever wanted to do something like this since it was so well documented (color pictures too).

You are a hero. Thanks so much.

 

[luigisho]

I think rubydist did an atx to mtx conversion. Everything is doable. the ecu is a little challenging as it's not an easy reflash to move things around. You need an eprom or other physically interfaced hardware piece to get the programming to work. If you have the skills and time it could be a cool project.

 

[zoomlater]

I found the file! But its a word document and the site doesn't like it. Let me see if I can save it another way.

 

[1nd0]

I found the file! But its a word document and the site doesn't like it. Let me see if I can save it another way.

Save it as a pdf ?

 

[zoomlater]

Save it as a pdf ?

I attached it, can you open it

 

[1nd0]

I attached it, can you open it

I can !!! Woot woot thanks

 

[zoomlater]

In the write up, he mentions he deleted the AC compressor. On MTX cars, the AC compressor/bracket is supposed to be part of a structural support, so you may want to retain the compressor (even if you don't hook it up).

 

[1nd0]

In the write up, he mentions he deleted the AC compressor. On MTX cars, the AC compressor/bracket is supposed to be part of a structural support, so you may want to retain the compressor (even if you don't hook it up).

Thanks good information to have.

 

[thegreatbriguy]

The easiest way is to find some gen 2 mtx wiring from the year of your car and just swap all the wires

 

[zoomlater]

did you already have a parts car for the swap?

1990 Taurus SHO project or PARTS CAR - auto parts - by owner -...

Little rough condition... best for part's car, has extra MTX transmission as well I wanted to rebuild the car but due to moving and budget I will not be able to. You will need to come see in person...

seattle.craigslist.org