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Discussion in 'Gen 1 & 2 - Suspension, Brakes & Body' started by shomesomesho, Feb 5, 2006.

  1. shomesomesho

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    I've wanted to keep the slicers on my daily driven '91 Plus but none of the low budget brake upgrades thus far have really been sufficient to keep up with my "spirited" driving style. :)

    I didn't want to shell out $$$ for a set of 17" rims and tires just so I could run cobras with 13" rotors...

    So.. I took the plunge and slapped on a set of dual piston cobra calipers with 11.6" rotors ('96 and up). This in short required redrilling the caliper brackets to relocate the bolt holes 0.7" further up.

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    End result: WOW. Unbelievable stopping power with less brake pedal effort! Totally blows away the '96 brake upgrade as well as the PBR Mustang GT (non-cobra) calipers on 10.x" rotors that I previously ran.

    And many thanks to the various fellow SHO fanatics on this forum who took the time to explain how to do this..It really is pretty straightforward.. and a helluva worthwhile upgrade.
     
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    your pictures never show up for me.
     
  4. NotSoSlowSHO

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    I can see them :shrug:
     
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    Me too, and they make me think that I should look into this. They're really that much better than the regular 96 upgrade?

    Steve, I think you just suck at Teh InTeRnEt.
     
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    Nice indeed! I've been wanting to do that for awail.

    Do you have any pictures of the old and new holes?
     
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    How much did this setup cost ? Looks great too..
     
  8. shomesomesho

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    Thanks..

    This setup requires '94-95 knuckles. Assuming you already have that. If not, go to pick your part and pull them off any '94-95 Taurus (SHO or SLO).

    Cobra PBR calipers/brackets/PBR stock pads (new) $150 (ebay is your friend)
    Pair of 11.6 rotors ($90, rockauto)
    ==>> base price $240

    Optional goodies:
    Stainless steel brake lines ($90)
    Hawk HP Plus pads ($90) or whatever your preferred pad is..

    For redrilling the brackets:
    10.5 mm drill bit (I used a drill press)
    M12 x 1.75 tap

    [quote="sho3d]Do you have any pictures of the old and new holes?[/quote]
    I do have a picture of the modified brackets, if Nate (nkb93) doesn't mind me posting them..OK, Nate?
     
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    Oh man, there is no comparison!

    [Cobras w/ 13" rotors] > [Cobras w/ 11.6" rotors] >>>>>>> ['96 brake upgrade]
     
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    Wait, any 94/95 taurus for them knuckles? Thanks
     
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    yeah, any 94-95 knuckles.
     
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    Is there any particular year for the calipers?
     
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    the late 90s cobra or MAch1 calipers. Mach1s can be found cheeper then cobras but are not powercoated.

    Has anyone tryed to make the cobra/mach1 calipers work with 12.2 rotors? I am thinking about trying it, but there is not enough distance between the 13" rotor holes and the holes that would be required for the 12.2 rotor.
     
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    I figured out that a custom 12" 2 piece (7" BC hat with cobra offset) can be fit (in theory, as in I have not done it yet) with the cobra calipers under slicers with a very thin wheel spacer. They would cost about 500 and change. This would be similar to the bondurant setup which uses 13" mustang rotors cut down to 12".
    The 12.2 rotors have a different offset (much deeper) than the mustang or sho rotors. SHO92 is running the new cobra caliper on 12.2's with 17's though, they will not fit slicers. To run slicers he needs the older style pbr caliper which is shorter in height than the cobra caliper. In addition he has the baer kit that has a special bracket/adapter to run with the deep offset rotor.
     
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    Im a newb, What does PBR really mean?? I mean cant I just buy two front Cobra calipers with brakets and re-drill and tap them??
     
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    http://www.pbr.com.au/about/index.shtml

    PBR manufactures many of the OEM brake systems out there (Cobra, Corvette, etc) as well as their aftermarket line (Baer).

    yes

    Ian
     
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    If you want to use them with the 11.6 rotors there are tabs that have to be ground down in addition to adding the new hole and tapping it. Once you do that you would need a spacer or something to use the same bracket with 13" cobra rotors. The Cobra caliper is manufactured by PBR/Baer.
     
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    Any 94/95 Taurus/Sable knuckles with ABS.
     
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    So let's assume I have +'96 knuckles and 11.6" rotors. Then the GEN3 brackets are all that is needed but still need to drill the Cobra calipers?
     
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    No, you use and redrill the Cobra caliper brackets. You'd no longer use the Gen 3 calipers or brackets.
     

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