upgrades that are essential for your 2010 and newer SHO!

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  1. Micaiah Auker

    Micaiah Auker New Member

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    high flow intake NGK 6510 plugs 170 degree thermostat and SSM engine torque struts I have the race version. They add alittle vibration but not bad but they have different classes of mounts personally I would go with the race version but if you can't stand alittle vibration go with the street series. I have all of these on my car and I like them alot! theirs more but not going to share complete build list aiming for 500 to the tires at least.
     
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    The SSM torque mounts? Did they make a difference? And every time I look them up it says fit 2013-2018 explorer 3.5l is it the same fit or is there a separate one?
     
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    Yes they did make some difference, I would definitely do them if your going to turn the power up. And yes there the same ones that say their for the explorer ‍♂️ they fit my car just fine.
     
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    The Dicunzolo Moutns are better. They are better quality and don't look like a third grader welded them, unlike the SSM mounts.
     
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    No need for the tstat.

    3 bar
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    Best mods for the money
     
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    Yeah best mods for the money but I'll be able to push my car harder at an race track without pushing temps. that is A proven fact. So for me that's A must do!
     
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    I have had the 160 and 170. Switched back to stock.
     
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    not totally but it is true that it doesn't give you more cooling or power but what is true is that it sets a lower starting point so therefore you can push your engine temp up more degrees from where the thermo opens and where the cars overheating point is. Say your cars hottest safe temp is 235 degrees and factory normal opt temp is 195-210. So say you have a 170 t stat and runs at 180-195 you have further to go before you reach your safe temp of 235. thats what im trying to say
     
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    The cooling system and load on the engine determines how hot the engine gets, the thermostat fully open will still be the mercy of the coolant system's ability to remove heat. The 160/170 is just the starting point in which it opens. Its not what the car stays at. Cooler thermostats are for butt dynos.
     
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    Like I said it is a gimmick. I live in Phoenix and I have a stock T-Stat in my car. Once you hit operation temp.....
     
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    Exactly what I was saying it gives you A lower starting point so therefore you can push your engine temp up more before you get it to hot not that it cools any better it doesn't it just opens the t stat all the way sooner so it has longer to go at wide open before you hit the max safe level...
     
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    For what...one pull? Waste of money.
     
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    I'm with SM105K on this one.

    I am not an expert engine builder by any means, but a cooler thermostat is usually not beneficial. The thermostat only changes the temperature floor and not ceiling. This one is best googled if you want to know more, but don't get your information from marketing materials.
     
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    T Stat is just a starting point. Its not where the engine stays. By the time you are at the staging lane its temp is the same. Been doing this for over 20 years and have heard the same thing over and over. Its been debunked over and over.

    170 has the same operating temperature as the stock. I personally tested this; like I said I had the 160,170 and stock and they all performed the same
     
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    STOP IT! YOU ARE USING FACTS!
     
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    I promise to only quote retailers who make money on said items for here on out. Please forgive me as I know not what I do.
     
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    Let me ask this were ya'll tuning your cars cooling fans to kick in at the lower temp? Because if not it will just stay up there close to the factory temp because the cooling fans won't kick in till the factory temp so if your in town driving your temps won't change. Because the fans aren't kicking in until it reaches the temp there set at from factory.
     
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    Confusion reigns! Only good thing about the lower t-stat is it will let you heat the interior of your car a little sooner in the winter. Opens earlier to let the heated coolant in the engine circulate to the heater coil.
     
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    You can have the fan provision. Yes have them come on earlier. I live in Phoenix and I never see temps that alarm me, and that is me beating on it in 110+ weather. I have a Livewire that I frequently monitor.

    The whole T-stat thing is a gimmick. You lower the floor but the roof is still there. When it gets to temp it stays there.

    Also, you shouldn't be beating on a turbo setup before it gets to operational temp anyways. It isn't good for the motor or trans. My car never sees full throttle until full operating temp and at least a trans temp of 115 degrees. Ford has more money then all the tuners and aftermarket players and they want the motors to run a certain temp. That is for metallurgical reasons, emission, ect.

    The wear and tear you are putting on your motor with a colder T stat is not worth the nominal gain in power.
     

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