Turbo SHO HOW-TO...

Discussion in 'Tuning ~ Supercharger ~ Turbo ~ Nitrous Upgrades' started by Toolman, Oct 7, 2007.

  1. Brett

    Brett SHOs before HOs

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    Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but...
    Why would anyone ever want to go without an I/C? theres no down sides to an intercooler that i know of, is there?

    Whats the point of going non intercooled off the bat? Once you up the boost you'll have to add an IC and re work the piping. Atop of that ive seen PLENTY of people running ebay intercoolers (100 bucks max) well over 20psi with no problems. When they're so cheap i just dont see a reason as to why you'd go without. I know its just extra money when your trying to create a low budget build but if putting a turbo on a car with no pre made kits isnt gonna be cheap period, whats another 100 dollars?
     
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    I agree, put the IC in from the get go. But with the extra piping, silcone couplers, clamps, and all the cutting that needs to be done to fit a decent sized one (on a GEN I, even more cutting), the benefit one will give you at 6psi is not worth it to many people (and those extra parts will cost almost as much as the cheap IC). Look how many S/C'd SHO's are running 15+ psi with no charge cooling. The old adage 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' comes into play. Anything more than 6-7 psi, and I would strongly encourage charge cooling. And since boost is addictive, and so easy to come by in a turbo setup, charge cooling from the get go is always a good idea, just not a strictly HAVE TO in this scenario.

    I would say the same thing about injectors/MAF's/FPR's. You can run a certain amount of boost/HP with the stock stuff. Recommended? Not by me. Doable? Certainly.
     
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    I am looking to get back into SHO's and this topic is of particular interest. Before deciding on which year and trans to buy, I'd like some info, if you could....


    Is the automatic or manual more capable of handling 350hp in stock form? I would prefer a manual, but I have heard failure stories of both numerously. What goes wrong with each setup commonly?

    What year's computers are more accepting of turbo's? I seem to remember that 94 was the start of OBD2....is one year more or less forgiving/accepting?
     
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    Both of the trannies suck. The manuals shred 3rd gear.
     
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    The MTX will handle 350 or so HP. Its when u start makeing lots of TQ does the MTX fail. anything in general over 325wtq u should start shifiting gently
     
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    Yup, I believe 300Ft pounds at the crank is where 3rd starts to shred
     
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    1996 was the first year of OBD2 (on board diagnostics 2) in the SHO. However, if you are referring to tuning, EEC-V (Engine Electronic Control?) started showing up in some Fords in 1994. I believe that 96 was the first year for EEC-V in the SHO.

    All mtx computers are swappable 89-95. EEC-IV, OBD1.

    93-95 ATX computers are swappable but the 94-95 D4U1 (automatic only) is the more preferable computer. EEC-IV, OBD1.

    96-99 is a whole 'nother story- new engine, automatic only, OBD2 and EEC-V. I know very little about the 96-99's.

    Ian
     
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    are there reasonably attainable ways of making either transmission type hold up better? I am not a drag racer, street racer, or power shifter, or into burnouts. I just want to build a fun weekend/summer toy and my first choice would be a 350 horse 5 speed car. Any info? thanks!
     
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    Buy one of only 4 HD gearsets that were made for the SHO 5 speed...............

    And then add a Quaife.....
     
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    Why is 350chp the magic number that you want to achieve?

    If you want to go forced induction, I'd suggest putting together a turbo or blower setup and go from there. Tune it for safety and drivability, get a dyno number and decide if you really want to push it any further. In my opinion, the Taurus is already pushing the limits of how well it puts the power down to the ground. Big numbers provide bragging rights and are fun in a straight line but there's only so much useful power on the street in this car. If your only priority is a 350hp, manually shifted car, I would not suggest a SHO. Power does not come cheaply and many parts are getting harder to find as these cars get up there in age. Almost any SHO you'll find for sale is going to need a good deal of maintenance before you consider boosting it. Just my 2 cents.

    Ian
     
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    That was like $.09. And 450+ hp SHOs are badass. That is all. :salute:;)
     
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    Ha, I don't disagree. As a 10 year+ SHO owner who has pretty much maxed my car out NA, I feel that the next step is FI and I teeter on that fence a lot these days. So while I'm tempted, this guy hasn't been bitten by the bug yet so maybe there is hope for him and his wallet still. :)

    A friend of mine had an FPS blower setup that Doug set up at 6 psi. He later had it dyno tuned for 8 psi. After pinning my brain to the rear glass of that car ever time I mashed on the throttle, I always felt that he was pushing the limits of how much usable power one could really put down in a streetable SHO. That car was a blast to drive and if I recall correctly, it was somewhere near 350 chp, +/- 20 chp. :)

    Ian
     
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    No my fellow brother, 430whp is the magic number.:laugh_ti:
     
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    Cool, it's a sticky thread. As far as the transaxle problems my friend, get in line. It stinks for sure, but what can you do? FWIW, a stock MTX-IV will easily handle a low-boost turbo SHO for some time. The stock gears will hold near 400ft lbs of TQ for at least 10-12k miles. A 5psi SHO will probably only make around 280-300ft lbs. The stock ATX? Along with removing a lot of what makes a SHO a SHO, the stock ATX seems even less inclined to handle extra power.

    Also, those extra special HD gearsets that Josh T arranged to have made? Only FOUR were ever made. One is in Josh's SC'd SHO. One is in Lupo's SC'd SHO. One is on a shelf in Canada. The last one? It is in my closet! shhhh!
     
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    350 is the number i am thinking as I am and have always been a rear wheel drive musclecar nut and thats the level of power I want. I currently have a 86 GT convertible and a 70 Charger, so thats the power level I want. Ive always been a mopar man and never had to deal with transmission BS like I do when working with Fords...
     
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    Finally got around to cleaning and updating the original post. More to follow...
     
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    NICE STICKY!!! Now to the drawing board. Darn ATX...................... But, its a SHO:omgsho: :urock:
     
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    Updated. Also, would it be possible for me to add another post directly below the first, so as not to have the info scattered throughout the thread?
     
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    Thank You!
     
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    I'm awaiting pics!!
     

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