Time goes by but history is repeating

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  1. GEN 3 SHO FAN

    GEN 3 SHO FAN SHO Member

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    It's just a reflection that comes by related to my aging cars.

    Last summer I was going to work with my SHO and with it, I don't waste time in the right lane, I'm very often in the left lane. On the last red light before entering highway (on a boulevard that become highway after this light), I have a Kia Optima GDI in front of me (the one with 2 exhaust tips and a turbo on the motor). Don't know very well the model at that time, but the guy into it apparently know mine... When the light goes green, he "launched" his one into highway, surprised, I decided to follow just to see I was was able to follow. (Entering highway there is no risk with the security and law passing 0 to 120 km/h.)

    I was able to follow him but I don't have hp to join and pass him. I was a little disappointed by my modded V8 this day (welded, saxectomy, Gen 4 SLO air filter, porterized surge tank and 3 trans coolers). It's appear that Optima sport option have a 2.0L with a turbo that have 274 hp stock. (!) Some searches after, I realized that many car now have easily that range of hp number when they haven't a V6 3.5L (almost all company offer a motor of that size : Mazda 6, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry (!!), Ford Fusion 2010-2012, etc.

    More recently, I begun to think to replace my winter work horse (the SLO and unable to find another good low mileage one) and came to choose the Hyunday Sonata 2011-2013 which have some cool aspects : low fuel consummation L4 2.4L/2.0L turbo, cool design (round shaped like Gen 3 and interior is crazy too), very well equipped for the price, a lot sold making parts easy to find, Hyundai reliability/service/guaranty.

    Searching a good one to buy, I find more and more with mention "new motor", "need motor" or "new garanty from Hyundai"... What the... My mother have one say me that they have a recall on the motor. In fact, isn't a small recall, the motors (2.4L and 2.0L turbo) can make hesitations and rattling noise, stall, stop working on highway and seize... Humm, remember me something related to a V8.

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/hyundai-sonata-engine-failures-prompt-recall

    Except that the problem on Hyundai motor is on the short block, not the heads. Which is a lot more complicated to repair for the common people and Hyundai don't bother with that and just replace the motors. Hyundai guaranty their motor until 120k miles passing this, it's our problem if I understand correctly.

    Well, I think I will repair my old rusted SLO and when I will/pass/be passed by a 2.0L turbo, I will look at it with a little smile keeping in mind he can have motor failure anytime, like the first SHO owners many years ago...
     
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  2. gamefanatic

    gamefanatic SHO Member

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    You know, the 2010-2013 SHO's are relatively inexpensive at this point. Actually I have debated myself even modding my Gen3 SHO simply for the fact that after the money put into it, I could have bought one of those SHO's and had a car that could go even further... Definitly has better aftermarket support off the show room floor than the Gen3's do.

    I also have been looking at the KIA's. They look very good these days. They have a new GT that was just released that is 3.3L turbo putting out the same HP as the SHO's. Though the SHO ultimately would be better in the drag, those GT's have a lot going for them. Of course they are still new so you pay as much for one of those as you would a new SHO.
     
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    I would hardly exclaim that the aftermarket arena is robust for the GEN4's.

    Having gone through all I did at the time to acquire all that I have, took an extensive amount of work.

    Even further, the GEN5's are now finding it more challenging because for the few items that did come out for the GEN4's, due to lack of sales / interest, much has been discontinued.

    Doesn't help having FMC dangling the proverbial axe over the platform for the last few model years either.

    Moving along, seeing as the car/sedan offerings are dwindling once again (gonna laugh when gas rises and all those trucks being sold now at top dollar, will fall flat on their face, and the owners can't give them away) I too have been spying other products.....

    Check out the new Hyundai Genesis in the G80 Ultimate Package. Five liter, 440bhp, tech laden galore..... Wowzers what a nice whip.
     
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  4. SHOdded

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    As far as engines go, Infiniti always does something quite different. They have had quite a few nice rides in their lineup.
     
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    There are a fair number of high performance sports sedans available these days, either new or fairly recent, that are excellent machines. Our Gen IIIs are well over 20 years old, design wise, at this point, and automotive technology has certainly not stood still. If I were looking for a recent sports sedan now, I doubt I would seriously consider a new SHO.

    pax, smn
     
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  6. GEN 3 SHO FAN

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    In fact, the car dimensions and his gas consumation are too big for my needs. Gas will always going higher at this point.

    The things whit recent spors cars is half of them have small motor and a turbo (Mr Nimz is in), not sure how these cars will run passed 100k...

    Personnaly, I refer to stay focused on not so big conventionnal motor.

    Here is some I spotted : (they are all from 2010-2013)

    Hyundai Sonata : similar shape, weight, power (even if they have motor problem, it seems that Hyundai handle it very trustly. Interior is very nice.
    Infinity G27 : powered by a V6 2,7L DOHC with a good power and easier to service/repair than the 3,5L...
    Ford Fusion (V6) : not the 3,5L, this motor is unservicable, changing an alternator on this thing is harder than on a V8 SHO... no, the good old V6 3,0L (but I was unable to look at the interior, the dash is an horror for me, familiar with round shapes all around)
     
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    Something like, "ha ha, your engine blew up. You suck"?

    As a F150 Ecoboost owner I am somewhat sensitive to high-performance engine failure. Anytime I hear the timing chain rattle or experience stumble I cringe. While my "immortal" 3.0l SHO is sitting around for lack of a working starter (again), my 2.4l Kia Optima very competently gets me to work and back.
     
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  8. GEN 3 SHO FAN

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    Until the motor stall, like V8 SHO owners (thread's name : history repeating).

    For your info : Kia won't replace the defect motors unlike Hyundai. In 2016, an class action said that the prob can affect 5% of the motors. But now we heard about this more and more often. (Maybe the number goes up a little don't know how).
     

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