Sway Bar Combo for Stock ATX

Discussion in 'Gen 1 & 2 - Suspension, Brakes & Body' started by Old Stang, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. Old Stang

    Old Stang New Member

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    Platform: stock 94 ATX with 20.6mm (F)/21mm (R) sway bars

    Disclaimer: I'm going to keep this SHO stock with the possibility of some bolt-on mods. It will be a pleasure driver as opposed to a daily and no possibility of auto-x or track time. Understanding that "feel" is a very subjective term, I tend to like a firm but comfortable ride with flat cornering at reasonable highway off-ramp speeds... nothing crazy. My first task is to make sure all bushings/components/brakes are in good shape, along with new tires (225/55-16, BFG G-force Comp-2 A/S) and a fresh alignment along with some seat miles before changing anything... if I like it as is, then I'm done. Yes, I have done the forum search and read the posts... lots of serious track combo input, but I'm looking for input from street driving experiences. That said, I have the following question (apologies for the long info setup).

    Question: If you have driven a Gen 2 ATX with a 20.6mm/23mm sway bar combo, what are your impressions of the driving "feel" around town and highway?
     
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    zoomlater SHO Member Supporting Member

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    I'm interested in hearing as well. I have a 23mm rear sway (from my 92) ready to go on my stock 94 ATX, but it will probably get new monroe struts/moog springs along with it.

    so you have already seen this?

    http://taurus.heliohost.org/pages/susp.htm
     
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    Thanks for the link. Yes, I do recall reading through this. Some very good info, just that most/all of the testimonials involving a 20.6mm FSB paired it with a 26mm RSB, the only ATX with this combo gave a characterization of "... predictable/tossable". I like the "predictable" portion, not sure what to make of the "tossable" ... easily induced over-steer?

    I suspect that even if I am satisfied with the 20.6/21 combo, I may try the 23mm in the rear to feel the difference and judge from there.
     
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    rubydist SHO Master Staff Member Super Moderators

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    As long as you drive the car moderately and not in any kind of "at the limit" situation, you will likely not tell the difference between the 21mm and 23mm rear bars. The 23mm rear bar reduces understeer, but for normal cruising you are not having a problem with the amount of understeer there is with the 21mm bar. You will notice the difference if you are in an emergency situation and you need to swerve very quickly at higher speed, or if you are tracking the car in some type of auto cross event.

    Which of those is better for you frankly depends on how good of driver you are. Most people are not great drivers, and in emergency situations tend to steer far too much. In that situation, having a healthy amount of understeer is good because it can prevent the vehicle from spinning out from the driver's too great of steering input. However, if you are a good driver and do not turn the wheel too far, then you will be happier with the more neutral handling vehicle because it is more predictable.
     
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    hahaha... great input, you bring up the ultimate performance (or non-performance) addition to any vehicle... the driver!
    Sadly, it's my opinion that almost every driver out there thinks they are a "good driver", some even a "great driver"... some truly are, most are not, as stated. Another great point you make is that being a good driver can be situationally dependent.
    All I can candidly say about myself as a driver, as much as the "protective Ego" will allow I suppose, is that I am no stranger to over-steer, I have owned several v8, RWD Mustangs with posi-traction over the years and over-steer was common place... it only bothers me when the rear and front of the car want to swap positions.
    That being said, FWD + some power (even a stock SHO) is a different ball game. Though this is not my first SHO, had a stock 94 ATX (Emerald/Gray) in the late 90's, I still have a lot to learn about the handling characteristics of these cars, but I am looking forward to more seat time (on the road) in pursuit of that goal.
    Thanks again for your inputs, very insightful. :)
     

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