Relay reloc for SAI pump (P0411, P1413)

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  1. GEN 3 SHO FAN

    GEN 3 SHO FAN SHO Member

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    A code popped yesterday, its P0411. It's seems that the secondary air pump have probs again (last time was a P1413). :(

    But it was a lot simpler to check the relay this time...
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    The idea came from the fact that the first time I gone there, the state of the relay was in real bad shape and I wasn't able to reteive it from his place... I then disconnect the plug and put a new relay on. Searching a place to put it, I spotted that the wire was tightened by some plastic clamps. I un-snap 1 or 2 which gave me some loose. I tie wrapped the wire to a wire of the ABS to secure the position.

    Like Paul says some years ago, "it's a stupid place to put a relay" and we can also say a 80$ relay. Mine is running there since 2 years without prob at this place. Humm, yes, now I have a prob, but it was one of the 4 contacts in plug having green glue on it (I have to rebuilt this one some years ago). Can be a good maintenance upgrade as these relay seems rares (can be found on some others Fords).

    I will wait to watch the car kills the code by itself (I did my part, do yours now !)
     
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    One of my SHO's has been popping an SAI code every once in a while. I didn't do much diagnosis on it, but keep clearing the code for now. No adverse problems so far. I know there isn't a problem with the pump its self. Long story short, I think my code is also the P0411.

    Are you saying its something do with the ccrm relay near the battery?
     
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    The OE relay is on the pump bracket. It's a 40A solid state relay. You can get a mechanical bosch style relay and replace it for around $10. But you have to do some rewiring.
     
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    I know that once I changed the exhuast around that p0411 was constant
     
  5. GEN 3 SHO FAN

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    No, but you can relocate your relay in front of the battery near the CCRM to protect it from water and dirt there. It will also a lot easier to check/replace the next time you have a prob with the SAI (for example, P0411 or a P1413).
     
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