PTU oil life monitor on PP cars

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  1. MHW100

    MHW100 SHO Member Supporting Member

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    The 2018 manual says that the PP version has a PTU lube life monitor in the display and not to check or change it unless the alert is displayed, the PTU is leaking or was submerged in water.

    Makes me almost want to leave it alone after reading this .
     
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    Nah. Disregard the manifesto. :D Really your choice while you have warranty. But an ounce (or 18) of prevention ...
     
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    Have there been any PTU failures on the versions that are water cooled?
     
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    Mine did after about 34 k miles
     
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    What year?
     
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  7. MHW100

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    I wonder if the problem was rectified in the post 2013 year for Ford to make these statements in their 2018 manual?
     
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    I know, reading on this site, that there were revisions made a few times over the years.
     
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    It's your car and your wallet. I would be semi-healthy paranoid about this part. The only thing that would deter me is if lubricant service on the unit would void the warranty. Other than that I would be all over this thing with preventative maintenance
     
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  10. MHW100

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    The with 9k on it I'm debating it just in case there is some kind of factory sealant or other additive in there that the dealer doesn't replace . The dealer doesn't even have the charge out codes in the system and had to manually look them up. Very odd.
     
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    I think the real question is if the PTU fluid monitor actually does the job. Maybe it actually does a good job at monitoring it, and you're good to go.

    I got a question: Is there a temp sensor in the PTU, and if so, can it be monitored? And is this something new for 2018? Or do earlier years have the sensor too?
     
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    ...perhaps the so-called fix can be identified by when the language changed in that year's manual.

    Also, I've scanned this forum and unless I've missed it I don't see any failures in these later cars. That doesn't mean it's not happening of course .
     
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    Maybe. Maybe not enough time/mileage on them, maybe not enough newer owners vs all other generation owners, etc. Too early to know about '18 owners as it's still 2018.
     
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    PTUs have failed despite being watercooled/monitored. Yes, Police Interceptors and Utilites see such failures often if the fluid is not regularly R&R'd, so you KNOW the problem is NOT resolved by trusting the manual.

    And I noticed an uptick of PTU failures at low mileage in Gen 5 SHOs. Why, I dunno, but adds fuel to the paranoia fire.
     
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    The temp sensor replaces the fill plug.

    Yes I'm sure it can be monitored in the P.C.M. I don't know 100%. Performance package cars and interceptors monitor the p.t.u. temp. For certain for the oil minder on the performance pack and interceptors. I think earlier (for certain 2016) performance packages have the sensor.
     
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    With Respect and IMHO
    - I think your way over thinking this, you only have 9K miles so your good for some time to come. My advice, enjoy your car, then maybe in the spring find someone to service the PTU, send the oil off to Blackstone Labs for testing, and use the results to figure out your maintenance schedule from there.
    Charlie/
     
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    It's the OCD in me lol . Problem with being a CPA .

    On the one hand its cheap to have it changed but on the other I'm concerned about the dealer not doing it correctly since they don't change the oil because failures don't occur any longer . This dealer fixes the police cars here which don't have PTU failures according to them . Probably just paranoid .
     
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    paranoia can keep you alive. agree with va member above. your mileage gives you plenty of time
     
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    Change the fluid. Red Line seems to be the fluid of choice for most. I went with Mobil 1 gear oil.
     
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    Changing every 30k miles is a good preventative maintenance. That should be frequent enough unless you track your car.
     
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