Well I tried to read the thermo thread but got lost in it. My car was running up in the 3/4 range last summer so I went to change the thermostat. I like to test mine on the stove against a thermometer. The new one started to open around 195. I live in the country so I put it together with out it. Ran it the rest of the summer that way and all winter. Now its getting warm again. Up to about 95 today. My temp guage is running up 3/4 plus and rising. Seems to hot but after reading the other thread seems normal. What's the consensus on running without a t stat? I know some engines need one to run cool. What's the recommended t stat? The Toyota one. It's been a long day and my brain ain't right.