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Discussion in 'Generation 4 - Performance Upgrades' started by yaycandy, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. SHOdded

    SHOdded SHO Member Supporting Member

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    ecopowerparts.com offered Carillo forged parts for the rotating assembly years ago. Glad to see more options. Honestly tho, if you are getting that deep into the motor, do a Livernois build. Not that I am against small upgrades here and there. We are all curious as to whether these are of any benefit :)
     
  2. yaycandy

    yaycandy SHO Member Supporting Member

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    I dont know weather to take the fords word or the guy on here that does the engine work. Id rather just get a stock motor and put my own internals in it because I know not to trust ford on stock forged components from the time i had with my cobra. You get what you pay for. I got arp 2000 bolts also on whatever connecting rods i buy. Ill figure it out. I got money, i just need time away from work to do what i want.
     
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    yaycandy SHO Member Supporting Member

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    I was looking into just buying their engine since it will have a warrenty with a tune. Where as a ford engine’s warrenty is voided with a custom tune. But id rather do it by putting the parts and bolts in it that i want. Not that i dont trust the livernois closed deck block. I tried to order it twice in the past online but it wont allow it to ship to my area
     
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    yaycandy SHO Member Supporting Member

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    Im sure there is benefits from better rods and pistons and fasteners that can handle 1000hp. But being open deck engine stock will cause issues. And having no room to upgrade to large turbos and the ptu will probably exploded if i crank up those arp turbos. Id like the sho to be around 700 or so crank hp but it will probably destroy the car. I dont try to flip flop, i just want a high hp sho but it ends up not being practical and gets my brain back up on the fence about it. Unless livernois makes a ptu, i was told by a sales rep last year that they did but ive never seen it on their website. Must just be a in shop rebuild of your stock one when you drop car off
     
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    SHOdded SHO Member Supporting Member

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    Huh. Their site now makes you create an account in order to add the engine to the cart. No test driving, LOL.
     
  6. yaycandy

    yaycandy SHO Member Supporting Member

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    I sign into livernois and the engine is still sitting in my cart. When i put payment info in again and hit confirm purchase it says they do not currently ship to my address. Probably because its a custom order they make to ship out. I guess ill just call in later if i got time
     
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    I took pictures of the two different pistons that go in the SHO and published them on this website back in 2015. You can tell the PP by the appearance of the top ring and how it’s seated. Until the dealer can pull the piston out of the engine and show you a PP and then a non PP I suggest you stop talking about things you know nothing about. The limitation here is the dealers word and they obviously have that pulled pistons on both motors.
     
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    I would definitely trust the guy who works with the blocks for ford over the dealer. Hell I had 3 dealers tell me the performance package wasn't a real thing because all SHOs were performance vehicles. These were all Ford dealers as well.
     
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    I conduct plant tours regularly.
     
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    I know I was meaning he should trust you, sorry should have just used the name.
     
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    Ok. Are you saying the police engine is better or the actual pp (performance package) engine. And will both go in my non performance pack without a ecm change?
     
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    He is saying the PP and PI are the same engine. Both should go in your non PP without a ecm change.
     
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    All police cars and Police explorers use the PP engine internals as well as any sho with the PP option. They are one in the same engine. That’s the one you want to get if you are rebuilding
     
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    yaycandy SHO Member Supporting Member

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    do you know the engine code so i can give to my local shop to have it ordered? Thanks
     
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    Different build codes are created each year I can get you the 2019 codes if there still posted remember this motor went out of production a couple of weeks ago. I will walk down there right now and look
    GS-490-CA non PP engine
    GS-488-C.A. POLICE WITH OIL COOLER engine
    FG1E-6006-DB POLICE SERVICE LONG BLOCK
    FG1E-6006-CB NON PP LONG BLOCK
    These are the numbers that the latest explorers were built under and I know the intakes are different from the explorer to the Passenger car. I believe these numbers will show up in the order book A vehicle with an oil cooler will almost always be up PP I don’t work in a transmission plant but I am sure a transmission oil cooler will also be up PP
     
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    6500rpm Quality Always Shoots Straight

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    shoblock, good to see you on the board, great source of information on our vehicles. I work fleet and although we don't do monthly calls with the Ford BQM's like the bow tie brand, if we see issues in the fleet we can generate TechTips on line that guys like you access. I've had responses to specific problems from Ford within minutes of adding issues via TechTips so I can honestly say Ford does take problems reported seriously and provides great bi directional communication.
     
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