Ford pits the New Police Interceptor Taurus and Explorer against the competition

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  1. typhoon5000

    typhoon5000 Ferd Enganear

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    There's some important facts I learned from these vids (other than they smoke the CV, Tahoe and Hemi Charger).

    1) The Explorer PI get's a "300+hp" version of the 3.7L TiVCT (the civilian Explorer gets the 280hp 3.5L)

    2) The upgraded brake rotors on the PI's are much bigger than the std Taurus' (@ 1:40 in part 4)

    3) The cooling system capacity of the EcoBoost in the PI is 50% larger than the SHO's :shiver: :thumb:

    http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/

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    I think this was one of the better, if not the best comparison b/t police vehicles in a very long time. I know it will be slightly scewed to the Ford PI, but knowing that going into the videos its still very impressive.

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    #1. Why... if they realize that the SHO has potential cooling issues, don't they use this radiator?????

    #2. Brakes??? (See #1.!!!!!)

    #3. Of course, Ford couldn't compare to the 2012 Chevy Caprice which is a Holden Statesman nee.... Pontiac G8 with a longer wheelbase. The 08-09 G8's have at least 2" more rear seat room than a SHO and are 400 lbs lighter.. The Caprice will have nearly 6" more area of seating. More for both front and rear, for those 350lb officers! Will be a tantalizing comparison! And hopefully WE will be the real winners.
     
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    It's got a cop motor, a 3.5 cubic liter plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made after Direct injection and Twin Turbos so it'll run good on premium gas. What do you say, is it the new Police-mobile or what?
     
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    Actually, I found that the cages in the cruisers took away most of the added leg room. And I really never did care much if the rear seat "passengers" were comfortable or not. Most of the time I wish they had even less room. :cool:
     
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    1) As you prob heard in the vid, cooling on the EB is only an issue in police situations because when cops end their shifts, the cars don't. They run 24/7 in temps up to 120F and idle a lot more than any customer is ever likely too.

    3) The Caprice isn't for sale yet, so one is not available to compare. You think GM is gonna let Ford borrow a prototype test car so they can bash on it? I don't think so. It will be a good battle though. I think the biggest factor is gonna be price. I still don't know how they plan on cutting $10K in cost out of the SHO with HD Police parts on it. Not many departments are gonna be able to afford $35K+ cruisers.
     
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    According to the "tuners" cooling is an issue in the SHO when run frequently at a 1/4 mi track on the same day.

    Sorry if I confused you about Ford & Caprice.... it wasn't compared because they aren't available at this time. (thats what I was trying to say) Not sure if new Charger was available either.

    Interestingly, my Brick EB DOES NOT have cooling issues.... Not sure if it's the vehicle, my 170 deg T-stat, the open front end due to Carriage works grille, or a combination of the above. After a run,
    my Brick is back below 185 before I hit the return road. ALWAYS....
    Water temp during runs, never exceeds 200 deg.
     
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    You might be surprised to hear that the new Crown Vics (And Hemi Chargers FWIW) are not that much cheaper than these new SHO PI's. In fact, the Hemi Charger is pretty damn close to the SHO's price point. :wave:
     
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    skewed or not, looks like Ford has some winners for our 5-0.
    I'd like to see some of those mods find their way into our rides too tho.
     
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    We certainly hope you all enjoy the SHO. And remember, people, that no matter who you are and what you do to live, thrive and survive, there're still some things that makes us all the same. You. Me. Them. Everybody. Everybody.
     
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    Interesting, since drag racing is a lot about being consistent, I would think that cooling between runs would also be important. It always was when I was active with a SS/FA car. Everyone I knew was very concerned about temps when making a run. I know very few people who would do back to back runs without some cooling time in between. Maybe it's changed, but making a bunch of runs, doesn't do anything but make the car slow down.
     
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    True, but when you are sitting in line behind maybe 10 other starter pairs, you are at the very least, starting and stopping vehicle and re-heating it up, to get to the lights. And... when you are logging, LiveLink has to be re-started with every shut-off, negating it's benefits. So... the big issue is keeping vehicle as cool as possible. Another issue is how much temp rise is generated by turbo boost. That's why there are sensors at 3 places in our EB engines. IAT temp is only relative to what happens later. Key is to somehow reduce the difference between IAT temp and MCT temp. (Intake Air Temp and Manifold Charge Temperature). My times do drop off but very little. Vehicle can make 4+ runs an hour and see at most a .15 variation in 1/8 mi time, and MPH. If ambient temp drops, that helps too. And as for SHO... person I was talking with had issues with heat build up in any given run....
     
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    That's one nice thing about the staging lanes at Maple Grove, they are on a hill so you can keep the car in neutral and with a little push just drift down the lane until you are up to run. Keeping the car off, does help with the temp problem.
     
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    I wish I were in your position .... :) -- Can't wait to hear (and see) what you might come up with.. Keep us posted (we'll keep your secrets-:p)
     
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    Hopefully the Police mods will make the move sooner... than later.

    As for Brick, it needs better brakes, and is subject to same recalls, but for some reason, I haven't had any noise/grinding issues in 19K.
    Who knows why???? Was hoping I could get recall done (justified) and then get much better pads. At 36K will go with new rotors and pads if recall isn't necessary. Cooling issues in Brick were likely resolved before production, as it has to be able to tow 4,500 lbs.
     

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