Differences between civilian SHO and Squad Car?

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What are the differences between an SHO and a Taurus Police Interceptor besides the squad car can survive a 75 mph rear impact?
 

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One is a purpose built police car and one is a family sedan? The differences are all over and very numerous. What is your goal or desired answer? Powertrain differences? Interior? Parts interoperability? It is probably easier to list what is the same. Differences include pretty mush the complete interior, headlights, suspension, powertrain cooling devices, etc. Parts can be swapped and you can change one into the other.
 

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A police will have probably better cooling and maybe alternator. The Performance Pack SHO is mostly a police sedan. Maybe better pistons
 

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Again, what is your goal?

Better suspension for what? Heavy duty abuse, chasing criminals, hard braking and heavy accelerations? Daily driving to work or cross country trips?

What overall performance? Quickest 0-60? 1/4 mile? Top Speed? Lap time around a track? Daily performance? Speed? Handling? Comfort?

As far as the alternator, you can get a 175A, 200A (optional equipment), 220A (police). That being said, having a 220A doesn't mean it is better unless you plan to add a bunch of electrical draw from aftermarket components. Cooling again pertains to what you are doing. The Power steering probably won't need the cooler if you are just driving to work. If you plan to track it, it may come in handy. The Performance Pack is also vastly different from the Interceptor. Different Suspension, Gear Ratio, Interior, Exterior, Headlights, everything. The PP is closer to the non-PP SHO than it is to the FPIS. Hence why people are always trying to figure you if they have PP or non-PP. You never see threads about is this a PP or FPIS.

Again parts are interchangeable and can be added or removed. You need to decide what your end goal is, what creature comforts are on your must have list, and go from there. There is no blanket answer for which is the best.
 

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My 2013 SHO needs front wheel hubs. I'm looking for a quality hub and I don't think O'Reilly's cheapest is going to cut it, so I leaned toward the better/best and found a PP hub available. Good idea or bad idea to put the PP hub on my non-PP car?

I registered because of this thread, I think I'll stay for the SHO. :)
 

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My 2013 SHO needs front wheel hubs. I'm looking for a quality hub and I don't think O'Reilly's cheapest is going to cut it, so I leaned toward the better/best and found a PP hub available. Good idea or bad idea to put the PP hub on my non-PP car?

I registered because of this thread, I think I'll stay for the SHO. :)
PP has nothing to do with a civilian car vs a FPIS (squad) car. PP is performance pack.

Check out RockAuto. The non-PP hub is cheaper and is the correct application for your vehicle.
 

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I was interested in the physical different between the two hubs, if there really are two different hubs. Some look up charts show a different P/N for the squad car, some do not. I had a though that other SHO owners may have actual insight. I am looking for better, not cheaper. Buy once, cry once.
 

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I was interested in the physical different between the two hubs, if there really are two different hubs. Some look up charts show a different P/N for the squad car, some do not. I had a though that other SHO owners may have actual insight. I am looking for better, not cheaper. Buy once, cry once.

You asked about hubs for your non-PP SHO. You asked about putting PP parts into your non-PP car. This thread is about SHO vs FPIS. Nothing to do with PP and non-PP.

Back to your question. Go to RockAuto, the non-PP (which is designed to fit your car) is cheaper. I am not saying get the cheapest economy model. I am saying if you pick the exact same brand of your desired quality level, the non-PP part is cheaper than the exact same brand and quality PP part.
The other advantage is you can see the physical differences. For example, select the More Info tab on the Timken PP and non-PP options. You will see all the measurements that are different.

Summary - PP is different than non-PP, PP/non-PP has nothing to do with SHO/FPIS (this thread topic).
 

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You asked about hubs for your non-PP SHO. You asked about putting PP parts into your non-PP car. This thread is about SHO vs FPIS. Nothing to do with PP and non-PP.

Back to your question. Go to RockAuto, the non-PP (which is designed to fit your car) is cheaper. I am not saying get the cheapest economy model. I am saying if you pick the exact same brand of your desired quality level, the non-PP part is cheaper than the exact same brand and quality PP part.
The other advantage is you can see the physical differences. For example, select the More Info tab on the Timken PP and non-PP options. You will see all the measurements that are different.

Summary - PP is different than non-PP, PP/non-PP has nothing to do with SHO/FPIS (this thread topic).
You always have good information to pass on. But he's kind of the OP of this entire thread. He can ask whatever he wants. I kind of understood what he's been asking from the very start of this, but I've had no helpful input to add.
To the best of my knowledge the 2013 up pursuit interceptor uses the same steering knuckles as the SHO. Performance pack or not, if I'm not mistaken. They upgraded the steering knuckle for a reason. I welcome a correction if I am wrong.
Now if he's inquiring about the early police interceptor gen 1 Taurus SHO. I have no idea. His earlier posts have been inquiries about this particular model run. I am assuming, which is a bad idea, that he's picked up a different car now, that is a Gen 4.
 
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You always have good information to pass on. But he's kind of the OP of this entire thread. He can ask whatever he wants. I kind of understood what he's been asking from the very start of this, but I've had no helpful input to add.
To the best of my knowledge the 2013 up pursuit interceptor uses the same steering knuckles as the SHO. Performance pack or not, if I'm not mistaken. They upgraded the steering knuckle for a reason. I welcome a correction if I am wrong.
Now if he's inquiring about the early police interceptor gen 1 Taurus SHO. I have no idea. His earlier posts have been inquiries about this particular model run. I am assuming, which is a bad idea, that he's picked up a different car now, that is a Gen 4.
SHOmont started the topic and asked about the difference between SHO and FPIS. ERASER5 joined and started asking the difference between a pp and non-PP car, specifically the hub.
 

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SHOmont started the topic and asked about the difference between SHO and FPIS. ERASER5 joined and started asking the difference between a pp and non-PP car, specifically the hub.
You you are correct sir I apologize.
It is kind of still on topic. Meaning differences between pursuit interceptor and sho.
Perhaps suggest to him to start a new topic if it's too far off topic. As always thank you for your knowledgeable input.
 

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I am exactly on topic.
Post #3 Just curious which has the better suspension and overall performance.
Post #4 The Performance Pack SHO is mostly a police sedan.
I asked about a specific suspension part: Wheel hubs. Not the cost.

So SHOMONT, I found the answer to a specific difference between a non-PP SHO and a Police sedan/PP SHO wheel hubs. The standard wheel hubs are listed a YES to ABS. The wheel hub listed for the Police sedan and the PP SHO and listed as NON-ABS. That is a significant difference! A Police sedan hub in a regular SHO would likely trigger the ABS error light and turning off traction control. This is a no go for me.

The ABS non-ABS also figures into performance. If you were drifting in a left corner turn, the non-ABS would not decide to auto-correct by applying the right front brake and pushing you into bystanders like the Mustang guy did. Traction control is good until it is bad.
 

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I am exactly on topic.
Post #3 Just curious which has the better suspension and overall performance.
Post #4 The Performance Pack SHO is mostly a police sedan.
I asked about a specific suspension part: Wheel hubs. Not the cost.

So SHOMONT, I found the answer to a specific difference between a non-PP SHO and a Police sedan/PP SHO wheel hubs. The standard wheel hubs are listed a YES to ABS. The wheel hub listed for the Police sedan and the PP SHO and listed as NON-ABS. That is a significant difference! A Police sedan hub in a regular SHO would likely trigger the ABS error light and turning off traction control. This is a no go for me.

The ABS non-ABS also figures into performance. If you were drifting in a left corner turn, the non-ABS would not decide to auto-correct by applying the right front brake and pushing you into bystanders like the Mustang guy did. Traction control is good until it is bad.
Post #3 was responded to and said that it depends on your intentions for the vehicle.
Post #4 was refuted. A PP in NOT mostly a police sedan. They are vastly different. For example, the suspension and steering components are not the same. Engine can be different (3.5 vs 3.7). Driveline can be different (AWD vs FWD). Electrical systems are different. Cooling systems are different. For a good start on the differences, check out: https://hooniverse.com/comparison-ford-taurus-sho-vs-ford-taurus-police-interceptor-sedan/

In response to your specific part as I have stated multiple times the CORRECT part (as in the PP part does not fit) is cheaper. As in it is a double bonus. In addition, the no ABS is a typo on their part. Both the PP and the FPIS come with ABS. In fact every single car after September 1st, 2013 is required to come from the factory with it. However, if you continue to look, you will notice the brake pilot and hub pilot are different sizes.
 

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I'm not sure, but some of the confusion in this thread may be related to what PP stands for. Some are using it to mean performance package which is an option package for the Taurus SHO and some are using it to mean Police Package (as in the Police Interceptor Sedan).
 

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I'm not sure, but some of the confusion in this thread may be related to what PP stands for. Some are using it to mean performance package which is an option package for the Taurus SHO and some are using it to mean Police Package (as in the Police Interceptor Sedan).
That would definitely be a confusion that should be ironed out. PP is Performance Package. There is no such thing as a Police Package for the Taurus. They did not do as they had done in the past with a Crown Vic and a Crown Vic Police Interceptor (CVPI). They decided that there was enough differences and the ordering method would be different enough that you could get a Ford Taurus (with various trim and packages) or you could get a Ford Police Interceptor Sedan (FPIS). This also furthers the point that there are so many differences that they needed to separate them. Similar to the fact that you cannot order a Ford Explorer with a Police Package in this generation. They sold a Ford Police Interceptor Utility. On the CVPI when looking up parts, you would see "with Police Package" or "without Police Package" much like you saw different trim or package options. With the FPIS or FPIU, they are listed as an entirely different vehicle. Yes, some of the parts are interchangeable but, some of the Taurus parts fit Explorers, F150, Flex, etc.
 

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