Considering buying a 2011 Lincoln MKS Ecoboost. What to look for?

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  1. MKSLife

    MKSLife SHO Member

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    I'm considering trading my 2013 Chrysler 300c AWD 5.7L Hemi w/ 27k miles in for a 2011 Lincoln MKS with 70k miles. Looking to downsize into a sedan with similar performance while saving a little money.

    Considering the Lincoln MKS Ecoboost is essentially the same vehicle as a SHO w/ the luxury package, I thought this board might be a good place to post for some advice on what to look for. I currently have the vehicle on loan from the dealership over the weekend. The vehicle is a local one owner car, which the salesman claims was owned by "an older lady." Carfax can, and has, confirmed the local one-owner part, but of course I have no way to verify the tales of the little old lady who only drove it back and forth to the store and to church on Sunday. :)

    What kind of things should I check and be on the lookout for while I have this opportunity to really evaluate the car? I've done some reading, and know the PTU could be a point of concern so I may try and see if I can at least suck out a few drops of fluid from it and see what it looks like. Any other advice you guys may have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
     
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    Apparently, it was a fairly long way to church on Sunday if she put 10k miles/year on the car...

    Does the CarFax show regular maintenance? You should check all the normal stuff that you would check for any used vehicle.

    I would also seriously consider getting an extended warranty on the powertrain, as the turbos and ptu are the most likely items to have issues.
     
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    Seems like every used car I've ever purchased was owned by a little old lady. That same sweet soul owned a 1989 Mustang GT that I almost bought. Seemed strange for the car to have Flowmasters and a CAI. I guess she just liked to go fast. :)
     
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    I know, right? She must have not been able to find a good church in town and needed to drive to the next town over get there.

    Yeah, the Carfax shows regular maintenance done here at the local dealership. Though the car does still need a full 60k service.
    The warranty idea does make some sense, especially from some of the horror stories I've read about the PTU...

    I did suck out some fluid from the PTU and it is very thick (much thicker than 75-140 gear oil) and dark like what I have seen people reporting finding in their own cars.

    I just wasn't sure if there were any other common issues specific to these kinds of cars anyone might suggest I check. The car definitely has something funky going on with the brakes. It's intermittent, but sometimes when stopping relatively quickly from highway speeds it acts like the rotors are warped. But other times I don't notice anything at all with them. I was going to pull the tires off and have a look but didn't get it done today.


    For reals, I've had the same experience!
     
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    How does it compare to the 300C? For me, it was between the Ecoboost MKS and a Hemi 300/Charger.
     
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    My experience is that Ford vehicles are very sensitive to lug nut torques being correct and even, and if that is not the case then rotors will warp all too easily. After a trip to the dealer for tires or tire rotation, I almost always have to loosen the lug nuts and torque them properly, because the tech will typically ram them on with his air gun and they will be too tight and not consistent. So, my guess is that the funky brakes feel is due to improperly torqued lug nuts, and that if fixed right away, the rotors may be okay.
     
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    I can only give you butt dyno results. But from my completely unscientific testing, I believe that the MKS has better 0-60 times than my AWD 300C does. My 300c is still bone stock at this point. From what I've read, there isn't a lot of room left to gain out of the 5.7 in my 300 with bolt ons or even a tune, as compared to being able get some considerable gains out of the ecoboosts with a tune (nevermind water-meth injection!). But that's just what I've read.

    My 300c is fully loaded with every luxury option available for the year, and compares very favorably to the 2011 MKS from a comfort and ride quality perspective. However, the Chrysler UConnect system in my 300 is leaps and bounds ahead of the Gen 1 Microsoft Sync system in the MKS.

    As I've had the car over the weekend and REALLY sat down and looked at numbers and book values, I think I was probably just caught up in the moment and too exited at the idea of getting into a different vehicle. The amount of money I'd actually save making this switch really isn't enough to justify going from a car with 26.5k to a car with 70k. Sorry for wasting everyone's time, but thank you all for your input.
     
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