Can't get your MTX fluid out? Here's an easy way with my DIY Fluid Sucker

Discussion in 'Gen 1 & 2 - Guides (For How-to guides, NOT how-to ' started by F-22 Raptor SHO, May 3, 2004.

  1. F-22 Raptor SHO

    F-22 Raptor SHO Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    2,788
    Likes Received:
    71
    Occupation:
    all around great guy.
    Location:
    7015 feet above Sea Level
    I've been wanting to do my MTX fluid replacement but I just dont have the guts to drill and tap a drain plug into something that could cost me a bundle if I do it wrong. So, I have to go the suck route. But how to do it?

    Most devices at the autoparts store just dont work well, so I got to playing around and came up with a nice DIY tool.

    I used to have vacuum evacuation chambers like this all the time in my old lab, but those a pricey. So, I made one out of the following parts:

    1 half gallon gator-aid bottle
    4 feet of tyvek tubing 1/4 inch in diameter.
    1 shop vac.

    The shop vac creates a vacuum in the gator aid bottle, but since the hose is in the side of the bottle, your vacuum is transferred to the end of the tyvek tubing. Result: mini vacuum that you can suck up oil with. Here is the finished product that when hooked up to your shop vac will serve as a catch bin for all your fluids:

    [​IMG]

    A word of warning to non chemists: this device is not suitable for flamable liquids with as the vapors will go into your vacuum cleaner and could ignite if sparked. Since Oil does not evaporate easily, there is little risk of explosion


    Here is the device in action:

    [​IMG]

    I used the small tubing to get way down into the transfer case. Mind you, the flow rate would be faster with larger tubing, but the smaller tubing was more manueverable. Took the device about 30-40 min to fill the jug. You could use like a big ocean spray jug, but the bigger the jug the less ridgid it is. Most often it ends up imploding (i started with a milk jug, then Tide jug, but both were 1 gallon sized and pretty wimpy)


    My assistant cleans up after the transfusion:

    [​IMG]



    GIVE ME 2 QT's of M1 stat!!:

    [​IMG]


    The IV method of delivery of fluids works very well....took all of 10 min to add 3 quarts to the tranny.


    The patient pulls thru the transfusion successfully and the color has returned to the vital organs:

    [​IMG]
     
  2. NotSoSlowSHO

    NotSoSlowSHO Gas is $$ WALK!

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2002
    Messages:
    5,103
    Likes Received:
    420
    Occupation:
    CDL driver
    Location:
    Moscow, IDASHO!
    Home Page:
    VERY nice :thumb:

    I gave up on my electric fluid pump a long time ago.

    now i need a shop-vac :lol:
     
  3. Bizzy

    Bizzy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    13,221
    Likes Received:
    1,447
    Very nice Michael! Smart thinking as always. ;) :thumb:

    I think I'll sticky this topic for others to see later on.
     
  4. revhardSHO

    revhardSHO SHO Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,987
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    you really cant damage the tranny if you drill in the correct location. Its a very simple job, takes me about 20 min for a complete drain plug install now. When you break through the case gravity will pull all the aluminum fillings out with the old fluid. After you are done tapping wash out the shavings with a little atf (though fill plug).
     
  5. Hack

    Hack ...............

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2003
    Messages:
    935
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Schmoozing
    Location:
    Washington State
    Home Page:
    That is great! I will print that one out and add it to my "SHOForum shop manual" :thumb:
     
  6. F-22 Raptor SHO

    F-22 Raptor SHO Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    2,788
    Likes Received:
    71
    Occupation:
    all around great guy.
    Location:
    7015 feet above Sea Level
    Notes:

    I drilled a hole slightly smaller than the tube diameter to ensure a tight seal. The flow rate is slow for the viscosity of the transaxel fluid, but a small hose was needed to get all the fluid out of the tough to reach places. It was pretty darn slow if you ask me considering the fluid in the transaxel was like ATF.

    You could alter the flowrate by changing the diameter of the hose. A 3/8 inch or 1/2 inche will cause the flow to be pretty darn fast which might be needed for a RWD differential considering the viscosity of the fluid.

    You could drilll multiple holes into the jug for various tube sizes, just cover the unused ones up with duct tape.

    My shop vac hose was too small for the gator aid jug, so I dremeled out a hold in the top....other shop vacs may vary. I'm gonna try the 1 gallon Ocean Spray bottle as well to see if the structural integrity holds up. I could see using this to suck out radiator fluid without having to use the stopcock catch method.

    Oh the wonders of science.
     
  7. SHOman24v

    SHOman24v SHO Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    Fresno
    Home Page:
    or you could go to a shop like i do and pay $20 bucks for someone to change the fluid, saves me the work

    Good idea tho :thumb:
     
  8. Bizzy

    Bizzy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2001
    Messages:
    13,221
    Likes Received:
    1,447
    Too bad I don't live in Cali I'd do it for $19.95! :thumb:
     
  9. Kean_SHO

    Kean_SHO SHO Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    10
    Occupation:
    Digital Signage
    Location:
    Cleveland, OH
    Home Page:
    Fluid Sucker

    You should rip the label off and mass produce those suckers! you could make a fortune on late night tv.
    "If you call within the next 30 min... we'll throw in the GM hose attachment for FREE! Import suckers also available." :D
     
    MichaelDecker95MtxSho likes this.
  10. F-22 Raptor SHO

    F-22 Raptor SHO Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    2,788
    Likes Received:
    71
    Occupation:
    all around great guy.
    Location:
    7015 feet above Sea Level
    1: I dont trust guys working on my car, especially those who charge $20.00 or gals that charge $19.95 to work on my car.

    2: It is kind of a personal knowledge thing with me. I heard the rightful heir of Dooleyville in his infinite wisdom say something that stuck with me: "Knowledge is free to those who are willing to take it in, the more I learn the more I can add to my personal toolbox of wisdom".

    So basically, if I can save 20.00 and learn something to boot, I am a better man for it. Its one more piece of worldly wisdom that I can use in life.


    Besides, its my SHO, aint nobody touching it that doesnt have a degree from "The SHOforum University of Mechanical Knowhow".


    As to the marketing of the device, I thought of it before i posted the topic, but considering I have learned so much from those who dont look to profit from ideas like this (the insecticide brake bleeding tool), I figured I would contribute to the cause.
     
    94opalmtx likes this.
  11. SHOman24v

    SHOman24v SHO Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    Fresno
    Home Page:
    i watch them to see what they are doing, like a hawk i might add....
     
  12. 1slickRED89

    1slickRED89 SHO Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2001
    Messages:
    1,234
    Likes Received:
    9
    Location:
    Toledo Ohio
    "aint nobody touching it that doesnt have a degree from "The SHOforum University of Mechanical Knowhow"."

    that makes beth president of SHOforum U.

    very clever idea. one variation could be using the engine as a vacum source, to get rid of the shopvac. i've never seen a shopvac pull 20inHG!!

    -Corey
     
    94opalmtx likes this.
  13. F-22 Raptor SHO

    F-22 Raptor SHO Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    2,788
    Likes Received:
    71
    Occupation:
    all around great guy.
    Location:
    7015 feet above Sea Level
    I dont have to pull 20 inches of Mercury...only about 6 inches of mobil 1. :thumb:

    Actually, the shop vac is about right for the container as if you pulled 20 inches of Mercury, the container would implode....probably with all that oil in it.
     
  14. MelectroK

    MelectroK SHO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2004
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Controls Engineer
    Location:
    Michigan

    Aren't Import suckers people who drive Japanize cars?
     
  15. Kean_SHO

    Kean_SHO SHO Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    10
    Occupation:
    Digital Signage
    Location:
    Cleveland, OH
    Home Page:
    I was waiting for someone to catch that. :D
     
  16. MelectroK

    MelectroK SHO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2004
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Controls Engineer
    Location:
    Michigan
    I am smrt I am smrt. S-M-R-T. I am smrt
     
  17. 91 SHOplus

    91 SHOplus Sholess 4 Now

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    2,405
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    Photographer
    Location:
    North Jersey
    Home Page:
    Michael, That's F-in' ingenious, dude. :thumb:
     
  18. etc1006

    etc1006 SHO Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2004
    Messages:
    713
    Likes Received:
    2
    Occupation:
    Nunya
    Location:
    Baltimore, Md.
    Home Page:
    You can also bleed brakes/clutches this way. Had to bleed the clutch REAL GOOD on my Probe... I made something similar with a vacuum canister from the hospital (my sister in-law is a nurse) using one of those cans that are used for suctioning patients. Hooked up my HVAC Vacuum pump and it worked great! Only problem was I didn't turn off the pump soon enough and it imploded the canister in the bottom. Spiderwebbed the hell out of it! I grabbed it and tossed it in the parts washer before the fluid started leaking out all over the floor... Luckily I have another and a source for more!

    -Eric
     
  19. SHOguy 92

    SHOguy 92 SHO Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2003
    Messages:
    3,356
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    Super One Foods
    Location:
    Duluth, MN
    You said non-flamables right? Isn't Transmission fluid EXTREMELY flamable? I have heard of vegicles burning to the ground when that stuff starts on fire, or at least I think I have?
     
  20. olympic

    olympic SHO Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2000
    Messages:
    1,471
    Likes Received:
    2
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    Saskatchewan, Canada
    Home Page:
    Oil and ATF will burn but only if they come in contact with something extremely hot like your catalytic converters. They are not volatile or explosive so sparks or even small flames wont start a fire.
     

Share This Page

If you wish to help keep SHOforum running, please click the donation button below