ATX guys and gals, here is a part and price list for you

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  1. n8rsk8r

    n8rsk8r Hey Where's my post?

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    EDIT: This is a list of parts, I am not selling these parts, this is what you should expect to pay for the parts listed, FYI.


    This is a repost since the other post is seriously MIA:shrug:

    This is a part and price list from a guy I have gone through for a couple different things, and this is per Axinators write up, thanks Axinator! Good stuff bro:thumb: I posted this because I will be doing this to my transmission VERY soon, thought you guys would like to know!

    Hello Nathan,
    Sorry I dident get back to you sooner but this weekend was the ATRA Transmission EXPO in Las Vegas. I saw the commentary on rebuilding the AX4S, this will be a good rebuilt if you do these updates. Here is the brake down on the parts in that report, all are in stock.
    Banner kit with Borg-warner high-energy direct and interm. friction's.........................$112.30 With regular Borg Warner non-high energy fractions $90.00
    Steel plate modual................................................................................................$36.37
    OEM Shift solenoids (3 pcs)...................................................................................$16.25 each
    OEM Pressure control solenoid(EPC).....................................................................$60.38
    OEM TCC solenoid (lockup)...................................................................................$25.06
    OEM Speed sensor...............................................................................................$49.39
    E4OD early overdrive sprag (low sprag update) Borg-Warner......................................$52.31
    Drive chain OEM Morse Borg-Warner......................................................................$50.73
    TRANSGO shift kit................................................................................................$53.02
    OEM New forward steel piston...............................................................................$13.87
    Torque converter....................................................................................................$105.00
    25 spline turbine shaft (used)..................................................................................$27.90
    Overdrive servo molded piston (we recommend this)...................................................$4.91
    SHO intermediate clutch molded rubber piston (we recommend this)............................$9.95
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    Total before tools and shipping w/ high-energy kit........................$649.94 w/o high-energy$627.64

    The tools in this report we do not stock but we can order them but they must be prepaid. Here are the prices,
    Lip seal installer protector kit ATEC # T-2400............................................................$78.95
    Snapress by hagerty ATEC # T-0158-SP..................................................................$118.21
    ATSG Tech manual (we have in stock)......................................................................$20.00


    Hope this helps some of you!!
     
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    Okay, that REALLY needs to be stickied! :thumb:

    Nice work! :salute:
     
  3. n8rsk8r

    n8rsk8r Hey Where's my post?

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    Okay thought I would update this thread with some good literature taken from the rebuild kit's manual. It is not much of a manual as it is actually about 8 pages of hardcore info! Here it is:

    FORD AX4S (AXOD-E)

    REDESIGNED: The rear lube cross-over tube, lube tube seal, and the rear planetary support have been redesigned beginning in mid-year 1993 and introduced as a running change in model year 1993. The redesign changes improve lube flow to the planetary gears.

    PARTS EFFECTED:

    Rear lube cross-over tube has a longer, smaller diameter end to pass completely through the case and into the revised lube seal, which is now pressed into the new rear planetary support.

    Rear lube tube seal is now pressed into the new rear planetary support to accomodate the new rear lube cross-over tube.

    Rear planetary support is now bored to accept the new rear lube tube seal.


    INTERCHANGEABLILTY:
    1.) The redesigned parts listed above ARE NOT interchangeable with previous design level parts.
    2.) The redesigned parts listed above may be used on any 1991 or 1992 AXOD-E transaxle, however ALL THREE PIECES MUST BE USED TOGETHER.
    3.) The redesigned parts listed above CANNOT be used on 1986-90 AXOD transaxles, because of the governor circuit.

    SERVICE INFORMATION:

    NOTE: The new design lube tube should be installed into the new rear lube seal first, and trhen press the other end into the case, to prevent seal damage. If the seal is damaged, a delay to drive will be the result, as this is in the drive oil ciruit.

    REAR LUBE CROSS-OVER TUBE
    ....................F3DZ-7G084-A 1993-1998
    ....................XF2Z-7G084-AA 1999-UP

    REAR PLANETARY SUPPORT
    ....................F3DZ-7A130-A 1993-1995
    ....................XF2Z-7A130-AA 1996-UP

    REAR LUBE SEAL (NEW DESIGN)
    ..................F8DZ-7G085-AA 1993-UP

    DIFFERENTIAL/SPEEDO LUBE TUBE
    .............F2DZ-7G086-A (EXISTING DESIGN)


    CLUTCH AND BAND APPLICATION:


    1ST Gear Manual Low:
    (APPLIED): Low/Int. Band, Foward Clutch, Direct Clutch, Low One-Way Clutch, Direct One-Way Clutch

    1ST Gear (DRIVE):
    (APPLIED): Low/Int. Band, Foward Clutch, Low One-Way Clutch

    2ND Gear (DRIVE):
    (APPLIED): Low/Int. Band, Forward Clutch, Intermediate Clutch
    (HOLDING): Low One-Way Clutch

    3RD Gear (DRIVE):
    (APPLIED): Intermediate Clutch, Direct Clutch

    4TH Gear (OVERDRIVE):
    (APPLIED): Overdrive Band, Intermediate Clutch, Direct Clutch
    (HOLDING): Direct One-Way Clutch

    REVERSE (R): Forward Clutch

    NEUTRAL (N): Forward Clutch

    Park (P): Forward Clutch
     
  4. n8rsk8r

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    FORD AX4S (AXOD-E)

    FOWARD CLUTCH PISTON CHANGED TO STEEL

    The AX4S /AXOD-E transmission has historically had a breakage problem with the foward clutch piston. Several re-designed aluminum pistons wer tried, but the were also prone to failure. A steel piston was then introduced that helped the problem.

    In 1996, the Windstar with the 3.8L V-6 started using the bonded piston from the AX4N with reasonable success. However, an intermittent neutral condition appeared even with the bonded foward piston, so a second-design bonded assemble was made available for service. This was also put into production around mid-1997.

    Ford released a third-design forward clutch piston used only in the Windstar with the 3.8L V-6. Ford deleted the apply wave ring from the forward clutch pack, creating the need for a taller piston with a rew part number. The taller piston was put into production for the Windstars after 9/8/97. The 3.8L Windstar platform also shared the direct and intermediate obnded pistons with the AX4N since 1996.


    CHANGE: The forward clutch piston has been changed from aluminum to steel. This is a material change only - no dimensional changes.

    REASONS: The previous aluminum material was reported to crack and break. A crackedc piston could result in the following:

    -No forward or reverse engagement.
    -Delayed forward and/or reverse engagtement.
    -Shifts out of gear when coming to a stop.

    To date there have been four different versions of the forward piston. The new steel version should not be prone to the previous persisent cracking problem.

    INTERCHANGEABLITY: The steel piston can be used to back serice ALL previous modelsof the AXOD, AXOD-E, and AX4S stransaxles. DO NOT use any service stock of the aluminum forward cluch piston that may happen to be on dealer shelves. (((***Very important!!***)))

    ALWAYS replace the foward cluch piston with the new steel pison using the OEM Part numbers listed below:


    (FORWARD CLUTCH)

    F1DZ-7A262-A - 3rd Design ((((((DO NOT USE)))))))))

    F4DZ-7A262-A - 1st Design Steel: Taurus exc. SHO, Sable, Lincln 1990-UP, Windstar 3.0L 1995-UP

    F4DZ-7A262-B - 1st Design Steel: ONLY Taurus SHO 3.2L 1993-UP
    F5DZ-7A262-A - 1st Design Bonded Rubber: Windstar w/3.8L 1996-1997

    SUPERSEDES TO:
    F8DZ-7A262-AB - 2nd Design Bonded Rubber: Windstar w/3.8L to 9/8/1997

    F88Z-7A262-AA - 3rd Design Bonded Rubber: Windstar w/3.8L 9/8/1997-UP



    TURBINE SHAFT O-RINGS

    Midway through the 1994 model year, Ford changed the turbine shaft. The shaft increased in diameter and the spline changed from a 23 teeth to a 25 teeth. The 25-tooth shaft requires a new slightly larger O-ring. The part number for the new O-ring is 17021 9OEM # FOTZ-6749-B). It has been included in Trans Tec Kits since date code M95.

    Due to the closeness in size between the two O-rings, the 25-tooth shaft O-ring has green identification marks on it, while the 23-tooth O-ring is plain black.


    ((( I am extremely tired and am going to bed, I will fix typoes and such later))))
     
  5. kputer

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    n8rsk8r said "Midway through the 1994 model year, Ford changed the turbine shaft. The shaft increased in diameter and the spline changed from a 23 teeth to a 25 teeth."

    My car is 08/93, it is a '94 but should have the trans with a 23 spline shaft?
     
  6. n8rsk8r

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    kputer, sorry I haven't responded, haven't been on the forum much this year. I will find out and let you know:thumb: that is if you are still wondering!?! Again sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.:oops:

    I have seen a couple people post about transmission problems, i.e. specific problems they are having with their atx's of different models and years. I have charts in paper and print form, but honestly don't have time nor energy to scan em off. I found a cool lil site about two years ago, I hope that this will help some of you guys out:salute:
    http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=100&did=564
     
  7. n8rsk8r

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    TSB's for AX4S & AX4N with dates

    I was searching for some info and ran across a list of all service bulletines for the AXOD-E: AX4S and AX4N.:cool:




    TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title

    03-14-8 JUL 03 A/T - Cooler Flushing Service Tips

    02-17-6 SEP 02 A/T - Inadvertent Shift Interlock Disabling

    01-15-7 AUG 01 A/T - Fluid Application Charts
    01-1-7 JAN 01 A/T AX4S - Triple Clutch Pack

    99-15-2 JUL 99 A/T - Transmission Flush and Fill Tool Available

    98-13-12 JUL 98 A/T - Flushing Oil Cooler And Lines
    98-10-7 MAY 98 A/T - AX4N No 4th Gear/DTC's P0734/P0761/648 Set
    98-3-8 FEB 98 A/T - AX4S/AX4N New Transaxle Fluid
    98-3-7 FEB 98 A/T - Intermittent Neutral Condition/No Forward/Reverse

    97-23-7 NOV 97 A/T - AX4S/AX4N Codes Stored After Replacement

    962612 DEC 96 Torque Converter - Cleaning and Replacement Guidelines
    96249 NOV 96 A/T Torque Converter - Leak Test Procedure
    961714 AUG 96 A/T - AX4S New Main Control Cover and Pan Gasket
    9687 APR 96 A/T - AX4S/AX4N Driveline Noises
    96713 MAR 96 A/T - AX4S TCC Inoperative in Cold Weather
    9659 FEB 96 A/T - AX4N Clicking Noise On Reverse Engagement
    96511 FEB 96 A/T - Revised GROB Spline Drive Joint
    ATRATB360 JAN 96 A/T - AX4S (AXODE) Rear Sun Gear Bearing
    ATRATB359 JAN 96 A/T - AXOD, AX4S (AXODE) Revised Forward Sprag Race
    ATRATB366 JAN 96 A/T - AXOD, AXODE, AX4S, AX4N Revised Spline Drive Joint
    ATRATB368 JAN 96 A/T - Case Breakage at Rear Planet Support Snap-Ring

    95258 DEC 95 A/T - AX4N/AX4S Bonded Separator Plate Gaskets
    95177 AUG 95 Transaxle Clutch - Clearance Revision
    951611 AUG 95 A/T - AX4N Electronic Shift Solenoid Applications
    951610 AUG 95 A/T - New Rotunda Fluid Changer Service Tip
    95156 JUL 95 A/T - AX4N Rear Planet Support Retaining Ring
    95157 JUL 95 A/T - Revised Torque Converter Identification Codes
    95516 MAR 95 A/T - AX4S Rear Sun Gear/Drum Bearing Service
    95312 FEB 95 A/T - AX4S/AX4N TSS Sensor Air Gap Measurements Change
    ATRATB278 JAN 95 A/T - AXOD/E Accumulator Springs Identification
    ATRATB308 JAN 95 A/T - AXODE Erratic or High Line Pressure
    ATRATB314 JAN 95 A/T - Delayed Engagement, Shift Errors, MLPS Codes
    ATRATB267 JAN 95 A/T - Delayed or No Forward/Reverse, Shifts Out of Gear
    ATRATB294 JAN 95 A/T - Drive Axle and Wheel Lug Nut Torque Specifications
    ATRATB310 JAN 95 A/T - TCC Pulsing On/Off, High Line Pressure, No Codes

    94267 DEC 94 A/T - AX4S/AX4N DTC'S P0500/P1785/P1784 Set
    94246 NOV 94 A/T - AX4S Transaxle Exchange Program
    94247 NOV 94 A/T -AXOD/AXODE/AX4S Gear Engagement Concern
    94215 OCT 94 A/T - AX4S/AXOD New Lube Tubes
    94208 OCT 94 A/T - AXOD/AXODE/AX4S Retaining Ring Orientation
    94209 OCT 94 A/T - AXODE/AX4S No Gear Engagement/Noise
    94166 AUG 94 A/T - AX4S/AX4N Shift Concerns/Damage
    9468 MAR 94 A/T - AX4N Service Procedure For Orange Tagged Units
    9467 MAR 94 A/T - AXOD/AXODE/AX4S Leak At Torque Converter
    9455 MAR 94 Antilock Brakes - Pedal Feels Like It Has Extra Travel
    9448 FEB 94 A/T - AX4S Torque Converter Revision
    9417 JAN 94 A/T - AX4S Orange Do Not Service Tag
    ATRATB251 JAN 94 A/T - AXOD/E Erratic Shifts
    ATRATB225 JAN 94 A/T - Forward Sprag Upgrade
    ATRATB204 JAN 94 A/T - Modification to Improve Gear Lubrication

    ATRATB191 OCT 93 A/T - Failsafe Modes
    93167 AUG 93 A/T - AX4S Do Not Service Tag
    ATRATB169 JUN 93 A/T - AXOD/E Electrical Diagnostic Information
     
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    This needs to be stickied!
     
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    *****torque Converter Info*****

    Started back up again! Here is some new info. I am searching out the best kit/combo to rebuild the tranny. To be honest I was taken for my money on a kit I bought a couple years ago and lost interest with rebuilding it. Being on the forum this year has put the itch back to getting it rebuilt to enjoy and betch about the sho with everyone else :biggrin:

    Here is some new info:

    23 Spline Turbine:

    F-58-SHO Ford Torque Converter

    AXOD Torque Converter: 11", 23 Spline Turbine, High Stall

    TORQUE CONVERTER SPECS

    * 11" diameter
    * 23 spline
    * .825" pilot
    * 18 spline pump drive
    * No drive on hub with 1.655"-1.658" bushing
    * 4 mounting studs
    * Non-modulating clutch type unit
    * Unit has an inset impeller for HIGH STALL in SHO


    **when changed to the 25 spline (will find out date and update)**

    25 Spline Turbine

    F68E-SHO Ford Torque Converter

    AXODE Torque Converter:
    11", 25 Spline Turbine, High Stall SHO

    TORQUE CONVERTER SPECS

    * 11" diameter
    * 25 spline turbine
    * .825" pilot
    * 18 spline pump drive
    * No drive on hub with 1.655"-1.658" bushing
    * 4 mounting studs
    * Modulating clutch type unit
    * Unit has an inset impeller for HIGH STALL
     
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    Thanks, I'm fixing to start the rebuild on my one of two transmissions tomorrow. Well, it'll be teardown, I still need to get the rebuild kit, shift kit, solenoids, etc., etc. I read on one of these threads that the E40D(up-grade)o.d. sprag was discontinued, but it looked like they listed the wrong number for the replacement sprag, so I was wondering about that. Was the E40D sprag the one that was discontinued or was that the wrong sprag?
     
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    AX4S/AX4N Interchange/ Inter-trouble Great 3 page article on gearing and some differences between AXOD-E transmissions both AX4S & AX4N.

    Another insightful website for Taurus (SHO)/Sable transmission info HERE

    A lot of you may have already seen these sites. The reason I started this thread was to collect all the information on our transmissions and to put it together on one thread. I will be adding/merging the parts pictures thread into this as soon as I can, along with detailed pictures on the tear down and rebuild of the tranny. :sun:
     

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