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I’ve seen that on legit track cars. Honesty I wish….but only if it was all carbon and done by a professional lol. And very nice drawing
I actually know a guy who works with carbon fiber. So real carbon fiber parts not the faux stuff. He works on competition sailboats. He actually wants to make up by rear hatch for his car out of carbon fiber. Only problem is he's super busy because of that specialty.
 

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Did you get any other goodies from him!?!? And how’s the wide body coming along?
No just the turbos, he ceramic coated the hotside so that’s nice to have also. The wide body project has been slow going, basically I just haven’t worked on it. But I’ve been taking a hard look at air suspension. I mean…I’m stalling the fender flare install bc I want to see where it sits with the full weight of the car…..but if I do air bags I can just adjust it, if I do coilovers I could adjust it also….but I think bags are the way to go for many reasons. I damaged my chin spoiler and front bumper last year on sketchy road….to be able to adjust ride height instantaneously would be very practical, you can get a kit to have a preset ride height…so it could be set for regular driving and raised when the road is sketchy, slammed when it’s parked, watch it stand up to ride height when you remote start it, and I’ve been looking at drag cars with air bags and time attack cars with air….it’s definitely doable to run the car at the drag strip….I’d run it as low as possible on the strip. Plus it’ll look ******* cool! Many reasons! Lol
 

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No just the turbos, he ceramic coated the hotside so that’s nice to have also. The wide body project has been slow going, basically I just haven’t worked on it. But I’ve been taking a hard look at air suspension. I mean…I’m stalling the fender flare install bc I want to see where it sits with the full weight of the car…..but if I do air bags I can just adjust it, if I do coilovers I could adjust it also….but I think bags are the way to go for many reasons. I damaged my chin spoiler and front bumper last year on sketchy road….to be able to adjust ride height instantaneously would be very practical, you can get a kit to have a preset ride height…so it could be set for regular driving and raised when the road is sketchy, slammed when it’s parked, watch it stand up to ride height when you remote start it, and I’ve been looking at drag cars with air bags and time attack cars with air….it’s definitely doable to run the car at the drag strip….I’d run it as low as possible on the strip. Plus it’ll look ******* cool! Many reasons! Lol
Been thinking about doing airbags for the last 2 years....DO IT
 

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I bought air suspension last night. It just makes so much sense for me, having damaged my front chin spoiler prior, and choosing not to drive my car in areas with strange entrances and exits for parking lots……air ride will allow me to drive it anywhere, get the stance I want, and with fender flares it’ll allow for a killer parked stance.

I bought Air Ride management 3P, 3/8” lines, 5 gallon air tank “raw”, one compressor for now, paired with Airtekk struts. I can upgrade to their 3H kit at anytime, as well as add another compressor.

Air Ride 3P is pressure adjustable and you can load 3 presets as well as change on the fly, so I can set it to air out to my desired height when parked, air up to preset ride height when started and a preset for going all the way up. I can also fine tune the dampening on each corner, and for instance, I can drop or raise each bag by 1 psi if I want, like if I’m at the track I’ll probably get it as low as possible.

The 3H system is adding height sensors ….so for instance 3 ppl get in your car and the car will automatically add air as needed to maintain your preset ride height. And two compressors, it will obviously air up and down faster but also if for some crazy instance you have a compressor issue you still got one compressor to get you home. Some ppl get 1/4” lines but I opted for 3/8” so it will move more air and air up and down faster anyway. I definitely see upgrading to two compressors and the height sensors in my future.

A local friend has air and he said air suspension all day over coilovers…..he said you just have more options with air. He reported no issues in 4 years and he runs it in the winter. He laughed when I asked how much it weighed. He said it’s an aluminum tank and aluminum compressor so maybe …maybeeeee 5lbs for the tank and 5lbs for the compressor.

I’m super stoked and I think this feature will add many more years of enjoyment to the car and like I said, give me no excuses not to drive it.
 

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Nice dude. I cant wait to see how it works and looks!
 

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My son swears by Air for adjustability and comfort. His GTI has had it for years. I guess it's a matter of cost over comfort for me lol. Do a write up and cost for it all and pics for sure.
 

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My son swears by Air for adjustability and comfort. His GTI has had it for years. I guess it's a matter of cost over comfort for me lol. Do a write up and cost for it all and pics for sure.
What is the reliability of those setups? I always wondered if they were just something else to worry about fixing
 

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What is the reliability of those setups? I always wondered if they were just something else to worry about fixing
What I’ve found from doing some research is 99% of issues are user error. Maintenance is literally visually inspecting and remembering to drain your water trap. Can’t install and have anything rubbing on the bags or that will lead to a tear. Air Lift management will tell you if you have a leak and where in the system it is.
 

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The air suspension set up intrigues me. I worked on a 2021 Tahoe Z71 last week that the air suspension failed on, replaced the pump/module asm which emptied the storage tank. I work fleet and took it across the lot to take care of another issue before I programmed the module and with no air in the bags it bounced so bad it damn near gave me spinal compressions. I'm talking almost undriveable on rough surfaces at 10-15mph. I'd be curious how the system would drive slammed in low mode. We had a member a few years back, USMC something if I remember correctly that was talking about giving it a try, not sure if he followed through with it. I'll be watching your post, best of luck.
 

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The air suspension set up intrigues me. I worked on a 2021 Tahoe Z71 last week that the air suspension failed on, replaced the pump/module asm which emptied the storage tank. I work fleet and took it across the lot to take care of another issue before I programmed the module and with no air in the bags it bounced so bad it damn near gave me spinal compressions. I'm talking almost undriveable on rough surfaces at 10-15mph. I'd be curious how the system would drive slammed in low mode. We had a member a few years back, USMC something if I remember correctly that was talking about giving it a try, not sure if he followed through with it. I'll be watching your post, best of luck.
I won’t be driving it without air in the bags, even on a lower setting. Airing out the bags is for parking only. Then you raise to your preset ride height…..so set a ride height for yourself, in my case that will be high enough off the ground my splitter should be about 5.5” off the ground. That’s one full inch higher than I’ve ever driven it before, since now my tires are larger. That way I don’t have any running issues turning and also have even less of a chance hitting scraping the front end. But even then I can raise it all the way up, higher than stock suspension to clear weird parking lot entrances and exits, thus ensuring I don’t damage my front end again. Parked it will always be aired out and slammed, not driven like that.

Driving with no air in the bags, no wonder it drove like ****. Try it with air and you’ll have a different experience to share.
 

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I know goofball, I have zero experience with non factory air systems. I was just making a statement wondering about how it would handle at the track in a low setting.
I killed my chin spoiler a few weeks back on road debris and had to glass it back and I'm on factory PP springs. I've often wondered how you guys that are lowered with the chin spoiler pulled it off. Chunk of wood emerged out from under a Challenger in front of me on the highway and .....thwack!
 
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I know goofball, I have zero experience with non factory air systems. I was just making a statement wondering about how it would handle at the track in a low setting.
I killed my chin spoiler a few weeks back on road debris and had to glass it back and I'm on factory PP springs. I've often wondered how you guys that are lowered with the chin spoiler pulled it off. Chunk of wood emerged out from under a Challenger in front of me on the highway and .....thwack!
Some of it is luck I suppose. What happened to you would have happened to me, nothing you can do in those instances. I’ve had some close calls prior to mine breaking, where I nearly hit something in the road, either bc something was in it or narrowly avoiding an animal. This is a good point bc to some degree it’ll always be susceptible to damage.

What I meant about adjusting the height at the track was to just air it down a little more than what my street driving ride height is. It’ll still have air in it, or I plan to still have air in it I should say. I’m going to want it low enough for the street that I don’t have too much wheel gap, but a healthy amount of clearance up front for daily driving. Then lower it to a more aggressive stance for the track, that I wouldn’t feel comfortable daily driving, but would be ok with on the drag strip surface and parking lot. I’m thinking that will still be enough air to keep pressure where I want it and perform well. I think you were imagining it aired out for a wheel tuck look/parked….but then me driving down the track that way? Maybe I made it sound like that.

Honestly I don’t really know until I know lol! But I’ll share with you guys what I did and how it performs. Aside from the price which was $3,080 my only concern is drag strip Performance, if it will create more wheel hop? But after watching the fastest Challenger HellCat on air I feel a lot more better about that. There’s a lot of misconceptions about air in regards to performance/maintenance. And I think factory air systems are sort of their own category….I know these systems can be problematic…..so it’s been a struggle trying to sift through some myths and misinformation regarding air.
 
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