how difficult would it be to swap the v8 and auto trans into a gen 2?? from what i have read the gen 3 subframe bolts right up, doesnt it??? there are quite a few shos around here for cheap.. yea someof them have their share of issues but going on the condition of some, for about $3000 i cold buy liike 2 gen 2s and 1 gen 3.. i think it would be cool to do the v8 swap into the gen 2 cause IMO i like the looks of the gen 2 better than the gen 3..
gen 3 drivetrain in a gen 2?
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Racer X
SHO Pilot, Retired
It's been done before, but on a scale of 1 to 10, this ranks a solid 8 for the wiring issues alone.
h949h
New Member
yea, that sounds like a cool project, but IMO, the v8 is NOWHERE near as good as the v6, i mean think about it, its a freaken VOLVO engine...plus it only has about 15 more HP then the v6.
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SHO Continental
Moderator
As long as you get a complete gen3 you can swap it into the gen2 no problem. All the parts will be right there, just need to swap them into the older body. Not quite sure where all this confusion is coming from? 
As long as you get a complete gen3 you can swap it into the gen2 no problem. All the parts will be right there, just need to swap them into the older body. Not quite sure where all this confusion is coming from?
well i guess im curious about how well the gauges would work with a gen 3 computer?? i mean the clusters arent the same shape. other wise i would swap the wiring in the dash over as well..
SinisterSHO
Rust free
Wait, what?
Racer X
SHO Pilot, Retired
Stop trying to understand what he just said. Much like dividing by zero, understanding that just isn't possible.
NebraskaSHO
Harumph!
Fail.
1993MTXSHO
Its a Taurus...
I am going to assume he is mixing the 3.4 V8 with the 4.4L V8 yamaha in volvos, even though what make vehicle an engine is in is completely irrelevant to how good it is or not, because the 4.4L yamahammers in the volvos kick some ass.
St Louis SHO
Rollin' coal
Let's break down assume. Assume. Ass/u/me. Assuming makes an Ass of U and Me.
1995SHO9
FLEES ARE COMIN
It can be done, I just don't think the couple extra hp you will get out of it is worth all of the headache you are going to run into.
~Johnathon~
~Johnathon~
maybe so.. but at the same time.. the rumble from the 3.4 .. is sweeet
SinisterSHO
Rust free
I'm going to lean towards no on this one.
Depends why you wanna do it?
1995SHO9
FLEES ARE COMIN
I've ridden in 96blacksho's car off of here and it did sound sweet. I don't like the v-8 sho's much but I loved the sound. And the back seats were deffinatly comfortable.
I'm going to lean towards no on this one.
Depends why you wanna do it?
Yah I guess it would. I think it would be a poor choice for a performance upgrade, but for the sound and comfort I think it would kick ass.
~Johnathon~
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SHO Continental
Moderator
You're going to use the gen3 cluster.
You know what, just give me the two cars and a week or two to swap it all over. But I'm going to have to keep the mutant for a year or so to make sure it keeps working in the long run.
BlackonBlack89
SHO Member
LOLJEM
SHO Member
Actually, no, the SHO V8 was 4/3 of a 2.5L Duratec V6.
It was (much later) used as the basis for the Volvo 4.4L V8, not the other way 'round. The Volvo uses the same bore spacing and the same stroke (might be the same crank for all I know) and I think the same deck height as the SHO 3.4 but a MUCH bigger bore and a VERY different block (die-cast, open-deck, siamesed linerless bores with maybe 5mm of gasket between the bores, the SHO 3.4 has half a mile between holes), the Volvo does away with the silly Duratec front-dress and cam-driven water-pump. I once posted some comparison pics of the Volvo vs SHO engines and blocks, maybe it's still out there, maybe it got eaten in one of the forum crashes.
The current Volvo S80 with the V8's a nice enough car, not going to make anyone think it's a 550i but if you live in snow country it's probably not a bad way to get around.
But, yeah, there's a lot of "what the **** were they thinking?" in spending a pile of money building a 3.4L 235HP V8. If they'd just used the 3-liter Duratec bore it'd have been a 4-liter motor, should have been well capable of at least 270-275HP in very mild tune. I still think that with some creativity and a sizeable bankroll it might be possible to build a 4-liter SHO V8, you could use off-the-shelf 3.0 Duratec pistons and maybe rods but the block work, custom-engineered sleeves, billet cams, lots of head work, maybe some trial and error getting a balance shaft that'll do the right thing with the different reciprocating masses, bring $15-20K to the party or don't bother showing up.
Of course, the problem for Ford in doing something like that in production would have been the lack of a transaxle capable of handling that output, and endless one-wheel peel with an open diff.
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