NotSoSlowSHO
Gas is $$ WALK!
I agree... almost.
Stock disc and stock clamp load pressure plate are fine.
But I will NEVER buy another SHO clutch that doesnt have upgraded straps.
Ive seen too many broken straps.....
Suggestions for clutch?
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I agree... almost.
Stock disc and stock clamp load pressure plate are fine.
But I will NEVER buy another SHO clutch that doesnt have upgraded straps.
Ive seen too many broken straps.....
SHOspazz92
Banned
Meh, ill buy stock clutches all day long. My track car is Still going on a stock replacement, 3 years later. Spray, autox, drag strip ...etc. just bought a stock replacement for the wife as well, love it. They will hold up if you dont botch downshifts.
NotSoSlowSHO
Gas is $$ WALK!
most people dont know how to shift.
I know this because I do clutch jobs all the time
This last one even sheered the dowel pins.
I know this because I do clutch jobs all the time
This last one even sheered the dowel pins.
SHOtime2511
CGP
The stock replacement clutch in mine had 3 layer straps.
I kind of figured they all do at this point being all reman.
Mine seems to take aggressive starts just fine and this clutch has probably 25K of routine beating.
I kind of figured they all do at this point being all reman.
Mine seems to take aggressive starts just fine and this clutch has probably 25K of routine beating.
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That is stock. Upgraded ones have 1 thick strap.
vortex2450
Buying Parts...
So keep an eye out for the durability of the straps I take it?
Something tells me that even with the modifications your's had since it was so light the stock clutch didn't have issues.
I'm talking about what will eventually be a modded, cammed, and boosted full weight SHO, the needs might be different.
Also, a member messaged me and says he has a Southbend clutch he no longer needs but he isn't sure of the actually model (stage "x").
Anyone recognize this? The pressure plate has "Valeo 339847 MF2 5L11" stamped on it and the clutch (engine side) has 167346 marked on it.
-Josh
frosho
WOLFMAN
It's either a stage 1 or 3, assuming it's a Southbend disc. If both friction materials are the same, stage 1. A stage 3 will have an organic disc on the PP side and their "feramic" stuff on the flywheel side (according to SHO Source's website).
shobote
SHO Member
Well, It says DXD right on the cover, the OFE is the stage III.
frosho
WOLFMAN
^Look at SHO Source's pictures. Every stage has a DXD sticker, at least in the pictures. If it was really a DXD (stage 4), it would have a 6-puck kevlar disc. The stage 2 is kevlar as well, but not puck style. The disc pictured above is definitely organic on the one side we can see, so it has to be either a stage 1 or stage 3.
Upon further reading, the "feramic" material would be on the flywheel (engine) side if it was a stage 3. The one pictured above is organic on the engine side, so it must be a stage 1.
Upon further reading, the "feramic" material would be on the flywheel (engine) side if it was a stage 3. The one pictured above is organic on the engine side, so it must be a stage 1.
vortex2450
Buying Parts...
Alright, seems like you are correct, thanks man, I owe you a beer.
Depending on what the guy asks for it I may bite but I'm not sure it'll meet my needs in the future.
Is there anyone else besides NotSoSlowSHO and SHOspazz92 that argue for a stock clutch?
I just don't see a stock clutch delivering in a full weight SHO running anything over 8lbs during spirited driving unless i constantly roll the throttle into the boost.
-Josh
frosho
WOLFMAN
Based on what I've read over the years, stock discs seem to be good for basically anything naturally aspirated (excluding nitrous). I wouldn't use one for a boosted application though. I'd probably go stage 3 or 4 if I was planning on boost.
93rev2sev
SHO Member
Yes. Anything Naturally aspirated is served quite well by a stock clutch.
SHOtime2511
CGP
stage 4 clutch does not a racecar make.
vortex2450
Buying Parts...
Only you could produce such an analogy, haha.
Boost is an imminent event, it is just a matter of how long before I do boost.
Good point.
So a stage 4 isn't completely out of the question for a car that would be daily driven? Just a matter of relearning how to shift I'll presume.
-Josh
SHOspazz92
Banned
My vortech car has a Stage 4. It is a easy clutch to drive. Just be aware that some of the "Stage 3/4" clutches do not take well to being daily driven. Sure, they will last a while, but don't expect 20,000+ miles if the car is driven constantly in stop and go.
-Sam
-Sam
93rev2sev
SHO Member
After breaking it in and getting a real feel for it, the stock Sachs clutch that I have is like driving butter. I don't know if I lucked out or what with the sub $150 price, but engagement is ultra smooth with no chatter, even when I'm too low in the RPMs, the pedal is super light and it has plenty of holding power.
I wasn't able to get it to slip until run 18 of the day at the drag strip with drag radials and I was NOT easy on it.
I can't ask for better performance from a stocker.
I wasn't able to get it to slip until run 18 of the day at the drag strip with drag radials and I was NOT easy on it.
I can't ask for better performance from a stocker.
SHOspazz92
Banned
I also have a SACHS clutch in my wifes car. However, I will say this clutch is actually kind of heavy. Maybe it will lighten up as the mileage is added on (Under 500 miles on it now). Great clutch. The LuK stock replacement in my old track car (That is still in there) was my favorite clutch however.
-Sam
jayro
SHO Member
This is along the lines of what I heard. It is not that the higher stage clutches are made to last longer, they are made to perform better under more extreme driving conditions. They vary stage by stage, but basically they grab harder and usually handle heat ect better. But they can also wear at a different rate. I personally went with a stage 3 because my car is not a DD and mostly only goes out to be taken to the track or to be driven aggressivley. Actual milage clocked is very low.
SHOspazz92
Banned
I can tell you that two of my cars with Josh's fibertuff disc's ate them up in less then 10,000 miles. They performed flawlessly, but when they went...they just went. No warning (Started slipping like a *****!). Both cars were exposed to stop and go traffic (One daily, one a few times a week).
-Sam
