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93rev2sev

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jayro... exactly what i needed. its a start...

Why not go with a wet system? wet is safter than dry - and the new fuel pump will meet the standards to shoot a 100 shot. Ill have to change the plugs but thats not a big deal.
Its good to know about the motor build. But if you are going to put forged pistons in there, why not just bore the motor out and put new forged in it? and then boost it? If you rebuild it - you know its new. My current motor has 200k on it and its about time for it to RIP.

The reason there's no "community choice" sticky is beacause it takes research to understand the decisions. Once you understand the decisions, you don't need a community to choose for you.

A boosted SHO is a toy. It's not usually practical to daily drive it or drag it down the 1/4. It USED to be good for ******* off vette owners but these days, a modern vette will simply roll his foot to the floor and leave even a well built moderately boosted SHO. And he'll do it without staring at his exhaust temp guage.

If all you want to do is **** off some "supercars", get a hundred shot and just keep buying motors and transmissions. They're cheap as he!! compared to a CTS-V. Just think of the insurance on a newer Caddy. You could buy an engine/trans every month for less than payment and insurance on a "Supercar".
 

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The reason there's no "community choice" sticky is beacause it takes research to understand the decisions. Once you understand the decisions, you don't need a community to choose for you.

A boosted SHO is a toy. It's not usually practical to daily drive it or drag it down the 1/4. It USED to be good for ******* off vette owners but these days, a modern vette will simply roll his foot to the floor and leave even a well built moderately boosted SHO. And he'll do it without staring at his exhaust temp guage.

If all you want to do is **** off some "supercars", get a hundred shot and just keep buying motors and transmissions. They're cheap as he!! compared to a CTS-V. Just think of the insurance on a newer Caddy. You could buy an engine/trans every month for less than payment and insurance on a "Supercar".

I hate to break it but from a 25 roll I kept up with a 405hp zo6....... although he did get me by a nose, he sure had a wierd look...
 

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look... this is not an argument forum.
im not looking to push another 200hp out of my motor...

i did 15.7 at 101mph. This was a stock 200,000 mile motor with a worn out clutch.

The point of this topic was to gather ideas from all the gear heads to make a more powerful than stock motor, and to go a bit faster than the 15.7 stock time i had.

Do i do a 3.2 swap? do i take my 3.0 and bore it out, clean it, and make a brand new motor out of it? Hmm???
What im trying to ask is....
What to do!!!!
Port n polish the intakes? turbo or supercharger? forget boost and go nos? Whats the max to bore a 3.0L? whats the best piston rings to get and what cams should i throw in there? Do i leave the heads alone or get them shaved and ported? Are there inake/exhaust valve upgrades?

this is meant to be a list for "newbies" to come to and say "HEY!, i see my options here in a nice organized list, and i can see the HP increase ill get for the price that it costs." Without them having to search the forum on 18 different topics just to get the info they want. Make this easy for them!!!! (and myself)

First off, your car did not trap 101 MPH. Your car trapped 91 MPH, as you posted in THIS THREAD. Who do you think your fooling?

Also, 200,000 doesn't mean jack shit with these motors. My engine has 220,000 Miles +. It's cammed, Revved to 8,000 RPM and sprayed quite often. It doesn't smoke or drop a single bit of oil. There is no reason why a high mileage boosted SHO shouldn't be reliable if the engine is maintained.

The answers are quite simple and already out there. Its just a matter of how much the "user" wants to spend.

  • Nitrous - Cheap and easy.
  • Wet Kit - NO, unless its a direct port wich is VERY Costly. This is due to the the intake design of the SHO. The nitrous will pool up blow your Motor.
  • Dry Kit, Zex kit 82011 - Most widely used kit in the SHO community.
  • Supercharged - Not cheap, but kits are out there.
  • Turbo - No kits are currently on the Market, Make your own kit or wait 12 years for the SHOsource kit to hit the Market.
  • 3.2 Swap, More TQ, Better drive-ability.
  • Head work, Useless.
  • Cams, work - best when tuned.
  • Bolt ons, useless, unless boosted.
  • Y-Pipe = Win.
  • Headers, Useless without boost.

  • Turbo better then S/C or vise verse? No, User preference.
  • Compression Ratio: User Preference.

Everything else, DO A SEARCH. So much has been covered on this forum its not even funny. I get what your doing, yea...a single resource for the newbs...great. But here is the deal, That resource is already there. Not to mention, as far as I am concerned, this is just another thread being posted by someone who says "I'm going to make my SHO have a blower, turbo and 12,000 other mods"...and it never happens. Not saying you, or anyone else is a waste of our time (Because frankly, our time isn't worth shit, and were not above anyone here), It's just something that doesn't need to be covered 600 more times.



-Sam
 
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I hate to break it but from a 25 roll I kept up with a 405hp zo6....... although he did get me by a nose, he sure had a wierd look...

Yeah, yours is one of about ten SHOs (out of THOUSANDS) that can sniff a Z06 without sweating profusely
 

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First off, your car did not trap 101 MPH. Your car trapped 91 MPH, as you posted in THIS THREAD. Who do you think your fooling?

  • Nitrous - Cheap and easy.
  • Wet Kit - NO, unless its a direct port wich is VERY Costly. This is due to the the intake design of the SHO. The nitrous will pool up blow your Motor.
  • Dry Kit, Zex kit 82011 - Most widely used kit in the SHO community.
  • Supercharged - Not cheap, but kits are out there.
  • Turbo - No kits are currently on the Market, Make your own kit or wait 12 years for the SHOsource kit to hit the Market.
  • 3.2 Swap, More TQ, Better drive-ability.
  • Head work, Useless.
  • Cams, work - best when tuned.
  • Bolt ons, useless, unless boosted.
  • Y-Pipe = Win.
  • Headers, Useless without boost.

  • Turbo better then S/C or vise verse? No, User preference.
  • Compression Ratio: User Preference.



-Sam

yeah my bad. i thought it was 101, in reality it was 91. sorry for not remembering my time slip and not wanting to dig it out of my glove box.... eat me.

Also - yes. some CAN sit in front of the computer for HOURS and do all this dinky research and try to read everything, or have a simple list that he can go to for REFERENCE. this is not going to be a "im doing all of this stuff to my car" (and it never happens)......

heck, search google for Civic intake - and youll find the few best ones for a civic. do it for the clutch... youll find about 5-8. but do it for an SHO and you find jack squat. what a pain in the ****. My buddy Nick doesnt even get on a computer much and doesnt know how to navigate as complex as we can. So why make it hard for him? make things simple and people will come back time and time again...

Your list was good. seriously. its perfect. just put some freaking brands in there and your golden. maybe add prices if you feel like it. or continue to be a ***** as in your previous reply. idgaf.

all i was trying to do, was make life easier for people. its obvious that out of the thread there is already a substantial amount of information here, and useful as well. i guess some of us just dont want to sit in front of the computer for hours to do this "research" which is basically "searching, then finding, then reading, then copying, then understanding" a topic. this is why its just easier to ask someone and put together a collective list.


thanks for turning me off on this whole freaking thing. Just because i feel my motor is old, worn, and deserves to be treated right, doesnt mean i need people harassing me because i asked them some questions.:thankyou:
 
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we don't mind every question, just the stupid ones...

and a SHO isn't a civic. it lacks the following, the production numbers, and the aftermarket support. Try using some other limited production cult car that a lot of people like for some unknown ******* reason instead of a mass produced econobox that ricers dump excessive amounts of money into.
 
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If you can't do the research for yourself... Why should it be our problem? Pay for someone to teach you or s00p up your car. You want us to make it easy for YOU. You're demanding quite a bit from us and then tell Sam to "eat me".

If you want a good list of stuff for these cars, do the research and ask for clarification. If you had done the work yourself, you'd find that there is not a plethora of parts to choose from and the aftermarket support for just about everything can probably be counted on one hand.
 
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yeah my bad. i thought it was 101, in reality it was 91. sorry for not remembering my time slip and not wanting to dig it out of my glove box.... eat me.

Also - yes. some CAN sit in front of the computer for HOURS and do all this dinky research and try to read everything, or have a simple list that he can go to for REFERENCE. this is not going to be a "im doing all of this stuff to my car" (and it never happens)......

heck, search google for Civic intake - and youll find the few best ones for a civic. do it for the clutch... youll find about 5-8. but do it for an SHO and you find jack squat. what a pain in the ****. My buddy Nick doesnt even get on a computer much and doesnt know how to navigate as complex as we can. So why make it hard for him? make things simple and people will come back time and time again...




Your list was good. seriously. its perfect. just put some freaking brands in there and your golden. maybe add prices if you feel like it. or continue to be a ***** as in your previous reply. idgaf.

all i was trying to do, was make life easier for people. its obvious that out of the thread there is already a substantial amount of information here, and useful as well. i guess some of us just dont want to sit in front of the computer for hours to do this "research" which is basically "searching, then finding, then reading, then copying, then understanding" a topic. this is why its just easier to ask someone and put together a collective list.


thanks for turning me off on this whole freaking thing. Just because i feel my motor is old, worn, and deserves to be treated right, doesnt mean i need people harassing me because i asked them some questions.:thankyou:

You sir are a ****** . A lazy, mouthy ****** at that . You sound like you couldnt tie your shoes yourself, let alone build a boosted Sho. Why dont you try your skills ( lack of skills ) out on moddifying a bicycle first .
 

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auto.guru, there are ways to win friends and influence people. this thread is not it.
 
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IMO 300ish wheel HP/TQ is about the useable limit of these cars.
Beyond that it is just not going to be worth a damn because the only place you are going to have traction is at highway speed .Your going to eat through transmissions at a high rate beyond that power also.
 

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"research" which is basically "searching, then finding, then reading, then copying, then understanding"

...you do realize this is the main way people ever learned anything before the internet came along. It shouldn't be that foreign. If you think the forum is hard to read through try a book, those have an 'index' not a search function.

-Your motor has 200k, that doesn't mean it is worn out. Their are motors on here with 300k plus miles that are still driven hard, at least one with 400k plus miles that still sees track time. Of course that kind of car has been maintained. Those are few and far between. These motors are strong...but arn't completely bulletproof. All that to say is, maintain your car and it will treat you well...it doesn't necessarily need to be rebuilt.

-However, the general SHO by this point in time is beaten up, under maintained...and is a sub $2000.00 car. Not many people are going to buy that and then supercharge/turbo it. Nor would that kind of car be able to handle it...and the work it would take to get it there would be way more than it would be worth.

-These cars are not Honda civics', you can't just google performance parts....and have everything at your door. Do you know why you can do that with civic parts? Most civic owners are idiots and need things like that in order to operate.

-Also, as rubydist pointed out very politely this thread is not the way to become a part of this community. Nobody is harassing you. A lot of us have been here for a long time and have worked through a lot of the possibilities/options with these cars. It isn't as easy as just making a list for someone.

-I tried to cover some bases, but without writing a novel I can't cover all the issues in this thread.

Doug
 
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I should make a book about posting on this forum.

O wait I forgot he would not know how to read it.
 
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It just comes down to you want some magic easy button of getting what you want and dont want to educate yourself and learn anything in the process. Your not the first person to come here and start a thread just like this one.

Heres a good start on turbo and general forced induction
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=81944

You could go get a dry zex kit ,Walbro 155lph fuel pump ,Autolite 3923's copper plugs and see how you do with the extra power. Its also much cheaper then turbo/super-charging the car.
 

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