the47guy
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option 1
SHO Source Turbo Kit
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SHOspazz92
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Mike.
Honestly, If you would not have even Mentioned option 2 - Option 1 would have NEVER been a concern to any of the buyers. And honestly, Why should it? In the long run a proper Tune and Install is going to to be the judge of how long ones Engine will last with this setup.
-Sam
Honestly, If you would not have even Mentioned option 2 - Option 1 would have NEVER been a concern to any of the buyers. And honestly, Why should it? In the long run a proper Tune and Install is going to to be the judge of how long ones Engine will last with this setup.
-Sam
Option 1 is more than adequate. Look at almost every single oem turbocharged vehicle, they don't run a sealed turbo, they run an oil feed off of the motor. If some people are dead set on option 2, let them buy that turbo themselves and attach it to the kit. If they're willing to pay an extra $1000 then a bit more for the fabrication changes to the kit shouldn't matter.
I wouldn't even trust a sealed unit. Turbos can get to 1500F and glow red hot, what oil can handle being encased in that? At least when the oil is flowing through the turbo it doesn't have time to heat up to the turbo's temperature completely.
I wouldn't even trust a sealed unit. Turbos can get to 1500F and glow red hot, what oil can handle being encased in that? At least when the oil is flowing through the turbo it doesn't have time to heat up to the turbo's temperature completely.
While I will not be purchasing a kit, IMO, option #1 is the way to go. Less initial cost is always a good thing. If someone wants, they can always 'upgrade' to a different turbo. I have never heard of a self-contained turbo either. Do you have some links? I would be interested in seeing what they are doing to handle the heat issues.
I hadn't heard of a self-contained turbo until now either. I never thought anyone would try it on something that gets so hot. Here is what I found in my search: http://www.aerocharger.com/
Some of the new Vortech's are self contained. My dad is looking at them for his Monte, however, SC run considerably cooler.
If I were in the market, I would go with option 1. As a builder, I would also put my money into that instead researching something 'new'.
Some of the new Vortech's are self contained. My dad is looking at them for his Monte, however, SC run considerably cooler.
If I were in the market, I would go with option 1. As a builder, I would also put my money into that instead researching something 'new'.
sho'noffmtx
Many SHO's
My first thought on this also was can the oil handle the heat build up. Just on that note i would chose option 1.
jayro
SHO Member
If they are both quality kits, then I would say option 1. As stated the customer could always upgrade at a later date if they wanted to. An entry level, high quiality safe kit would be the way to go.
Jeremy
Jeremy
needaQuaife
AKA: 5speedSHO
Options?
are these air foil bearings or twin scroll turbo being considered? What is the time frame of a kit being offered?
I prefer option 1 with the above features :thankyou:
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/StructuresMaterials/TribMech/research.html
"High-speed rotating equipment operating without oil lubricated rotor supports . . . bearings, dampers, seals" Find out more about recent technology breakthroughs in Foil Bearings, Tribological Coatings, & Analytical Modeling to enable High-Speed & High-Temperature Oil-Free Turbomachinery.
Team Lead: Dr. Christopher DellaCorte
Technology Overview
Analytical Modeling
Foil Bearings
Tribological Coatings
are these air foil bearings or twin scroll turbo being considered? What is the time frame of a kit being offered?
I prefer option 1 with the above features :thankyou:
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/StructuresMaterials/TribMech/research.html
"High-speed rotating equipment operating without oil lubricated rotor supports . . . bearings, dampers, seals" Find out more about recent technology breakthroughs in Foil Bearings, Tribological Coatings, & Analytical Modeling to enable High-Speed & High-Temperature Oil-Free Turbomachinery.
Team Lead: Dr. Christopher DellaCorte
Technology Overview
Analytical Modeling
Foil Bearings
Tribological Coatings
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Any other info on the kit mike? IWG? What size DP and does it mount up to the stock catback? Anything need to be remounted out of the way? (radiator hose, ABS comp, ICRM?). A WB02 is always a good thing, and having the bung installed in the DP, ready to go, would be great. Lastly, what are you going to be using to meter the air, and where will it be placed? Vent to atmosphere BOV or recirc?
zblackbeast
SHOtarded
When you say "cut corners", what exactly do you mean? I would also like to know the answers to the post tim made 2 above mine. ALSO, what would teh entry level kits cost?
We are still working the details, so we don't have all your answers yet. We are trying to make it connect to the stock and SHO Source catback. It will have a bung in place for the wideband. We are still working on the MAF options. We do not plan to cut any corners. We want to do it correctly and professionally, so that it is an easy to install kit.
Mike
My guess is that they are not considering a twin scroll setup as it would require equal length headers all the way to the turbo. Depending on the placement of the turbo (with the SHO being difficult), that would be very hard. I'd imagine that would increase the price exponentially.
IMHO, YMMV.
FOMOCOTOSHO
I eat Rice.
I'd be interested in Option #1 based on the price level.
For those interested in the more expensive Option #2 they clearly know what they are doing and are probably more than capable of putting together their own turbo setup like other members on here already have to their SHO's.
The intention of SHO Source I believe should be helping with us "Turbo Virgins" that are clearly scared *hitless of where even to begin on putting something like this together for themselves.
That's just my opinion...
For those interested in the more expensive Option #2 they clearly know what they are doing and are probably more than capable of putting together their own turbo setup like other members on here already have to their SHO's.
The intention of SHO Source I believe should be helping with us "Turbo Virgins" that are clearly scared *hitless of where even to begin on putting something like this together for themselves.
That's just my opinion...
GR8WYT
SHOless
Option 1. KISS!
And thanks again for your continued support.
And thanks again for your continued support.
platoribs
Live to Drive
How long before you'll be able to give us some idea of cost for this kit?
sperold
Last to Know
Remember the old VCR's........VHS and Beta. Beta was way more sophisticated, could record to higher quality, blah blah blah.
VHS won out on price, keeping in mind that it still did an adequate job.
Option #1.
I don't care how much research you put in front of me, I want oil going to that red hot thing, and so does eveyone else that might want to by it after the original install.
VHS won out on price, keeping in mind that it still did an adequate job.
Option #1.
I don't care how much research you put in front of me, I want oil going to that red hot thing, and so does eveyone else that might want to by it after the original install.
Option 1. simpler the better. The only reason my swap isnt turboed is I dont have the time to learn to tune a tweeker. I could build the whole turbo system on my car from scratch ( I tig weld stainless at home)in a weekend but I dont have the time or brain space left for another " operating system".
The guys that want to go the High dollar route will just build theirs from scratch.
The guys that want to go the High dollar route will just build theirs from scratch.
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SHOmethewayhome
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