Interesting fact about the keys to your SHO.

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  1. MARTINSR

    MARTINSR SHO Member

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    Did you guys know that you could use the key to your SHO to work in two cars?

    I remembered someone telling me this many years ago and I stored it in my head. You see, the double sided key to your Ford is actually just so you can insert it in the lock upside down or not and it will work. There is only one side being used, as there is only one set of tumblers. It is not a "High security" lock with two tumber sets.

    So, yesterday I went to the ACE hardware store and had them cut me a key with my SHO on one side and my wifes Windstar on the other. This took some convicing on my part with the little girl who was cutting keys. She just couldn't grasp the concept and actually got a little testy on me. She called the manager all huffing and puffing like I was asking her to pull her pants down or something. Then went ahead and violently cut the key. Back and forth and back and forth like the friggen place was on fire. Then scribbled down on the bag "NO RETURN". I had already told her it was "My dime", guess she wanted to be sure. :)

    Anyway, it worked great (which reallys surpised me the way she cut it like a friggin madman) and I went back to tell her "You would be surprised to see what you can learn, even from a stupid customer" :)

    Anyway guys, that may save you a key or two on your key chain.
     
  2. 99V8SHO

    99V8SHO GasOilAndTires

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    If these PATS keys were not so expensive I would be inclined to try it on my moms Exploder.
     
  3. GEORGE 1992

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    Pretty cool fact about the keys. I only have one Ford product, but cool tidbit. :thumb:
     
  4. Dr. Tweak

    Dr. Tweak Mad Scientist

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    Actually, you'll find that most "double sided keys" are like that. They're called convenience keys.
     
  5. MilTownSHO

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    True, but the PATS key is programmed to one car or the other, so it wouldn't start both.

    Wait... will it start both cars on non PATS cars? :confused:
     
  6. Bizzy

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    I think it should Jason. I just got done looking at my keys for my cars and found them to be identicle cuts on both sides in all cases. I think the only "problem" would be that if you didn't get it right the first time you'd have to pull the key out and flip it over and try again which isn't that much of a problem if you think about it.

    Very cool idea MARTINSR, thanks for sharing. :thumb:
     
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    Another tidbit on Ford keys. The first four cuts on either side of the key operate the ignition, the last six unlock the doors. So if you have to replace the ignition, you can have a key cut from the new ignition (most replacement ignition keys only have the cuts for the new ignition on them, the rest is blank) and original ignition key that will operate both the new ignition and original door locks.

    I found this out when I replaced the door locks on my car after it was recovered. Kept the same ignition and got a set of junkyard door locks and made a key to operate both. You may also find that your ford key may start other fords but not unlock the doors. I found this out when I got the second SHO. I could start either car with either set of keys, though I could not gain access to either car without the correct keys.
     
  8. GEORGE 1992

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    Wow, Terry, another good tidbit. Got a 68 Dodge, also ave two keys, because somewhere along the line the ign cyl was changed out. Cool that the Ford key could be customized, but you have to get the person working the key machine convinced, as in the above post! :thumb:
     
  9. RTStabler51

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    You can program them yourself....I don't know how much the actual key itself cost, but check this out yo.

    Program a PATS key yourself
     
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    Sweet...my 92 key ring will shortly be only 2 keys...thanks a alot. :thumb: Previous owner must have changed ignition key as I have one for doors and one for ignition. :salute:
     
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    So can I use ONE side for my 90's Ignition, and other OTHER SIDE for my Doors?
     
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    Your door key and ignition key should be the same.
     
  13. 96lt1

    96lt1 Likes to cut

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    If u knew how this statement made my day, u would feel very good about ureself. You see, I have a 93LX and the key I have to it only has 4 cuts. I always wondered how it could operate the ignition with that "shallow" of a cut. The funny part is it wont unlock the doors. I could never understand why it was cut like this. The car was given to me by my unlce. He bought it as a totalled car and had it rebuilt for his son. I am guessing I have a different driver door and that is why the key is cut like that. It has the keyless entry on the door so i have never needed the key for the door. Now I undersatnd though, this will help me get over that and get on with my life now.

    Sean :thumb:
     
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    how about ignition key and trunk key together, I know pointless with keyless but maybe on other fords
     
  15. MARTINSR

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    The trunk key has a different shape. The "zig zag" goes in the oposite direction. I just left the remote off my key chain and keep the one key for both cars. In my case the Windstar only has one key to operate the whole van, and the SHO it has the trunk release right inside the door so I don't need to carry the trunk key on my ring for the little I go into it.

    I have the keyless entry as well if I wanted to go into the trunk not being able to open the door for some reason (lost key?).
     
  16. twr

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    Glad to be of help :thumb: It's pretty easy to make a key to operate the doors, as long as you don't mind pulling one of the locks too do it. I bought a set of small metal files and starting in on making a new key to work the door locks I got at the junkyard, I then copied the ignition part of it. I took the one sided key to Ace and asked them to make a copy of it it, but to put the cuts on both sides. You may be able to go to a Ford dealer with your vin number and they should be able make an original key. So long as the door locks are original to the car you should be able to have a place like Ace or do what I did make the cuts onto your existing ignition key with a small metal file.
     
  17. snake396

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    i think they only started keeping the keys on file in '96, with the introduction of PATS and the newer 8 (i think) cut key with the groove down the center.
     
  18. shoteen95

    shoteen95 isn't a teen :D

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    one day, i had my 95 sitting in the garage, i had left it unlocked for the nite, so in the morning i just grabbed the little ford square key from the key basket and went off to school. Locked the car with the door button.

    At the end of the day, i slid the key into the door only to find it wouldnt unlock.

    Bummed a ride back home. the key unlocked the old 93, and started it as well.

    So i grabbed the right keys and got into my car.

    just a freaky little story. that had me perplexed
     
  19. nc89sho

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    Did this last night, works great

    my 89 and 93 are now started by the same key... YAY for ME!!! :hump: :thumb:
     
  20. sdpatt

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    I just replaced the ignition lock cylinder on my car yesterday and the Ford parts department individual took my existing key, measured the cuts on positions 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 and cut the new keys to work on my doors.

    The "Instructions For Replacing Ignition Lock Cylinders" that came with the new cylinder include the following statements.

    After quickly installing the the new cylinder in the SHO, with every turn of the key, the car now feels much younger. The old key could be partially removed while the cylinder was in the ON position and could get jammed when inserting if the tumbler was not properly lined up.

    The cutting of the keys to match the existing door locks seemed to be part of the purchase price when bought at a Ford parts department. I had referenced this topic before replacing my ignition lock and thought I'd update it with the information I learned from my experience. I am taking care of a few minor updates in preparation for my car's upcoming 300,000 mile "birthday."
     

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